Posted on 10/12/2014 6:57:24 AM PDT by dangus
Thomas Eric Duncan was already symptomatic when he flew on a jet filled with other passengers. He went to a hopistal, filled of course, with medical staff and patients, and was sent back home. He vomited, sneezed, coughed and sweat all over an apartment packed with relatives. By the time he returned to the hospital, he was spewing vomit in every direction. He boarded an ambulance with unprotected health care workers, and waited for help.
Emergency workers waited days before cleaning out the apartment he was staying in. Unprotected street workers blasted the vomit he left in the street all over the neighborhood by using high-power sprayers.
The government and medical response couldn't be worse. And still no ebola transmission.
Have you seen this one?
https://tv.yahoo.com/news/ebola-exposed-nbc-news-crew-ordered-mandatory-quarantine-215400076.html
” Does not sound like Obola is very hard to contract.”
I still don’t get why none of the other family members of Duncan have come down with it. Although nobody has heard from any of them since they got whisked away by that judge to an unknown location. Hmmm!
I agree. Twenty one days will start to tell the real story...
Somebody posted that he read the family practically bathed in clorox.
Its weird, people Duncan lived with for his time here no symptoms as far as we know.
What I can't find the answer to (and I did look) is if the polio virus is more "robust" outside the body. Does anyone know?
The reason I ask is that being old enough to recall the times before a polio vaccine there were in the neighborhood of 500k cases a year worldwide.
When you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs ... perhaps you have misread the situation.
Astoundingly, some people even seem to think I was arguing that ebola is harmless. I'm arguing that if ebola were the sort of killer plague from the movies, as so many people seem to think it is, the utter failures surrounding the Duncan case should have already led to a pandemic.
Let me be absolutely clear: there WILL be infected people arriving in the United States. I certainly hope that emergency responders, healthcare workers and the government have learned a lot from the colossal, absurd failures surrounding Duncan. But even if they have not, it does not follow that civilization is doomed, or that there will be an American outbreak of ebola.
And as for those who have been supposing that ebola will follow an exponential curve, here's the real curve:
Also, it should be noted that as of August, Nigeria had 20 reportedcases of ebola. They have not had a reportedsingle case since.
"The incubation period, that is, the time interval from infection with the virus to onset of symptoms is 2 to 21 days." from the World Health Organization. We're still inside the time window. And "as far as we know" is also operative here.
I retired this year after working for 25 years for a fire department in the second largest city in our state. I was on the hazmat team for many years. I agree with you... if Ebola gets to be a major problem in this country it will most likely have little to do with the characteristics of its lethality and transmission. If Ebola gets out of hand in the United States it will most likely be because of extreme incompetence of government agencies, political leadership and medical facilities. Unfortunately, most government agencies, most politicians, and many of those working in medical facilities are extremely incompetent.
In the meantime Cancer will continue to kill over 8,000,000 people per year. HIV will continue to kill approximately 1,700,000 people a year. Tuberculosis will continue to kill well over 1,200,000 people a year. Hepatitis will continue to kill over 1,000,000 people per year. Malaria which we had almost eradicated before DDT was banned... will continue to kill over 500,000 people a year.
Ebola will probably kill at least 10,000 people this year, and maybe 30,000 - 40,000 next year. Because of lax border control I would expect at least a few hundred cases in the USA. But unless some unlikely doomsday scenario develops Ebola will probably not become a problem that is anywhere near as devastating as the diseases mentioned in the previous paragraph.
It is a reminder however that taking common sense precautions such as getting enough sleep, washing your hands frequently, and not shaking other people’s hands when you are sick (unless you don’t like them) are always a good ideas. If you do end up with Ebola symptoms despite these precautions do the rest of us a favor... make sure and attend some left wing political rallies and slobber all over the other attendees... ;)
I know but viruses and people’s reaction to them are weird. At one time I worked at a waste water treatment plant and my co-worker got the bad flu exactly once in 20 years while about every three or four years I would get a bad case, and we worked in the exact same environment.
Also, it should be noted that as of August, Nigeria had 20 reportedcases of ebola. They have not had a reportedsingle case since.
Exactly. Thank you.
In the meantime, no panic here .. I'm not too prone to it and anyway, when one's # is up, it's up.
And btw, only saw your posts because this thread was already bookmarked.
There was/is apparently a tomcat on FR at some point, but that ain't me.
Mine's with a k, and has absolutely nothing to do with cats.
cheers d:^)
If the 21 day incubation period (per CDC) is accurate:
Duncan first appeared in the ER on Sept 26. Everyone who was exposed to him at the ER has until October 27th for the all clear
Duncan was transported to the hospital on Sept 28th. Everyone exposed to him during that period (including hospital staff at his arrival) isn't clear until Oct 21st.
Duncan died on Oct 8th. All healthcare workers who attended to him as a patient have to wait until Oct 29th.
It's really much more complicated than this though. For instance, we don't know when the 21-day clock started ticking for the Dallas nurse who is now positive for Ebola, and subsequently when the clock started ticking for everyone who was exposed to her prior to her hospital admittance today.
We also don't know how Duncan's body has been handled, and by whom. Have his remains been cremated yet? If not, there are some additional people (those who handle the remains) for whom the 21-day clock hasn't begun yet.
OMG!!!!!...Run for your LIVES!!!!!!!
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Not really
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