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Exclusive: Top Secret Service agent had gun stolen from car [how 'bout a TS/SCI Service agent?]
Washington Examiner ^ | 10/6/2014 | Susan Crabtree

Posted on 10/06/2014 10:08:57 AM PDT by markomalley

A top Secret Service agent who has regularly served on President Obama’s protective detail had his gun stolen out of his car at his house after leaving it there overnight and was never disciplined for it, according to two sources with detailed knowledge of the incident.

Internal Secret Service records show that the agency reported that the agent in question lost a semi-automatic handgun in 2009, but he was never punished for it, the two sources said.

At the time of the gun theft, the agent was assigned to the Secret Service’s inspection division, which collaborates with the Office of Professional Responsibility to ensure the agency complies with its policies and federal regulations and maintains high levels of “integrity, compliance and accountability,” according to the agency’s 2013 annual report.

The 2009 gun theft incident is widely known within the Secret Service and has troubled other agents and employees because the agent who lost the gun was never suspended or disciplined over the incident. In fact, he was later promoted to the protective division charged with safeguarding the security of the president, first family and former presidents.

The agent came home from work one night and left his work bag in the back seat of his car, a source recalled.

Secret Service agents are usually very careful about their guns and must undergo firearm training regularly to re-qualify to use them on the job.

But problems with stolen or misplaced guns are all too common at the agency, sources told the Washington Examiner, arguing that the Secret Service has a lackadaisical attitude toward firearms management.

In recent years, a gun was stolen out of a car outside headquarters, another gun was accidentally left at a shopping mall in a Washington suburb and another misplaced in the women’s bathroom at headquarters, the sources said.

In June 2010, two teenagers stole “a badge and a service weapon” from the car of a Secret Service agent in Noblesville, Ind., a suburb of Indianapolis, where the agency has a field office.

The teens, both 17, took the agent’s .357 handgun, which was recovered after someone tipped off the police, according to a local news report.

In August 2012, a Secret Service agent left a loaded gun in the campaign plane carrying Republican Presidential nominee Mitt Romney from Tampa, Fla., to Indianapolis. The weapon was spotted by a reporter.

When agents have their guns stolen or if they simply misplace them, they must report the incidents to their supervisor, file incident reports about it and obtain a replacement.

The Secret Service has an internal review board to handle all problems with employees and determine appropriate disciplinary action, if any. But in recent years, the agency has relied on supervisors to write up and report any incidents to the review board.

Too often, the sources said, supervisors only write up infractions for some agents and not others, creating resentment in the ranks.

After Secret Service Director Julia Pierson resigned last week after a string of security breaches and reports of embarrassing incidents and low morale, top Secret Service brass held a conference call pep talk with the top agents in field offices throughout the country Friday afternoon.

Deputy Director A.T. Smith and Assistant Director Paul Morrissey told the agents to remain “vigilant,” continue to do their jobs and work with state and local officials to prepare for the November midterm elections when Obama and first lady Michelle will be traveling more throughout the country, sources familiar with the call told the Examiner.

Although alarming on its face, losing or having guns stolen is a fairly common problem among police departments across the country.

In some areas of the country, departments require police officers to lock their guns in a special case when not using them in their personal vehicles, at the office or home.

But the elite Secret Service force does not have such a requirement, sources said. Agents routinely carry their guns home in their bags along with their radio dispatchers, their badges and other items.

Before a recent Department of Homeland Security investigation of Secret Service practices sparked by a prostitution scandal, losing or having a gun stolen was only a minor agency infraction, requiring a one- to eight-day suspension, with most receiving only a reprimand or a one-day suspension without pay.

During the Homeland Security Department inspector general investigation in 2012 after the Colombia prostitution scandal, investigators questioned the light penalties for losing guns or negligently leaving them where they could be stolen.

Pierson then established an Office of Integrity to weigh agency violations, and disciplinary action and penalties for losing or having a gun stolen became much more severe, requiring a more thorough investigation and up to 14 days suspension without pay.

However, it’s unclear whether the agency is enforcing the new requirements.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; gun; guncontrol; obama; president; secretservice; ssscandals
So Secret Service agents do high value target protection and investigate counterfeiting.

I would imagine that Confidential Service agents do medium value target protection and investigate check kiting.

But what do Top Secret Service agents do?

And how about Top Secret / SCI agents?

And are their Restricted Data agents? Formerly Restricted Data agents? CNWDI agents?

(Of course, we all "know" what Q agents do...at least those of us who are trekkies)

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Seriously, who proofs these articles (and their headlines)?

1 posted on 10/06/2014 10:08:57 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Not secret and not service... what are they?


2 posted on 10/06/2014 10:12:19 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: markomalley

They look good, dress and speak well and after that you have said it all....remind you of anyone??


3 posted on 10/06/2014 10:12:26 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: markomalley

There is no, repeat no agency within the federal government that is not falling apart either deliberately or from obesity.This happened to several Chinese dynasties as did to such ancients as the Egyptians and the Romans. It never ends well.


4 posted on 10/06/2014 10:20:40 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: markomalley

I can remember when “G-men” (SS, FBI, etc) were among the most admired and respected of all Americans. Now they’re just like any other FedGov a-hole, there for the bennies and the generous pension.....


5 posted on 10/06/2014 10:27:13 AM PDT by clintonh8r (It's possible to love your country and hate your government. I'm proof of it.)
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To: markomalley
Secret Service agents are usually very careful about their guns...

No sh1t?

6 posted on 10/06/2014 10:33:10 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: markomalley

ATF agents have lost track of dozens of government-issued guns, after stashing them under the front seats in their cars, in glove compartments or simply leaving them on top of their vehicles and driving away, according to internal reports from the past five years obtained by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

Agents left their guns behind in bathroom stalls, at a hospital, outside a movie theater and on a plane, according to the records, obtained Tuesday by the news organization under the federal Freedom of Information Act.

In December 2009, two 6-year-old boys spotted an agent’s loaded ATF Smith & Wesson .357 on a storm sewer grate in Bettendorf, Iowa. The agent lived nearby and later said he couldn’t find his gun for days but didn’t bother reporting it — until it hit the local newspaper.

http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/atf-agents-lost-track-of-dozens-of-their-own-guns-reports-show-b99213499z1-247182581.html


7 posted on 10/06/2014 10:34:55 AM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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In some areas of the country, departments require police officers to lock their guns in a special case when not using them in their personal vehicles, at the office or home.

As much as I enjoy shooting, I have never USED a gun in my car.

8 posted on 10/06/2014 10:35:34 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: markomalley

It seems to me that there’s a big difference in culpability between leaving your service weapon in a locked car, in your own driveway, vs. leaving it in the open at a mall. In the first instance, you’re a victim of theft — in the second, you’re a bozo.


9 posted on 10/06/2014 10:37:36 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: markomalley

Sig Sauer P229 chambered in .357 SIG

10 posted on 10/06/2014 10:41:54 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: clintonh8r
I can remember when “G-men” (SS, FBI, etc) were among the most admired and respected of all Americans. Now they’re just like any other FedGov a-hole, there for the bennies and the generous pension.....

Regrettably, these agencies have always been horrible. The memory you have is based on the fact that the government, via the media, has always controlled the message/imaging. The upright and lilly white law-abiding and a-political FBI, for example, is a complete myth from day one.

If not for the internet, none of what we know would be known and everyone would think that everything is just fine.

There is a serious top-down adjustment coming.

11 posted on 10/06/2014 10:47:28 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: Noamie

You’re right, of course. We all (well, some of us!) remember TV shows and movies with guys like Robert Stack and Jimmy Stewart playing G-man good-guys. I do believe, though, that the real people in these jobs back in the early post-war years were more dedicated than those currently “serving.”


12 posted on 10/06/2014 11:10:36 AM PDT by clintonh8r (It's possible to love your country and hate your government. I'm proof of it.)
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To: markomalley

FOUO Agents?


13 posted on 10/06/2014 11:43:39 AM PDT by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: SMARTY

They sometimes are being secretly serviced.


14 posted on 10/06/2014 12:12:34 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: WayneS

>>As much as I enjoy shooting, I have never USED a gun in my car. <<

Then it is time that you did some range time from behind the wheel. Be sure to wear your ear plugs and open all the vehicle windows. If it is a four door, open both back doors to cut down on the noise.


15 posted on 10/06/2014 7:53:21 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: markomalley

In the military, the penalty for losing a weapon is a court-martial and a trip to Leavenworth. Yet these G-men get off with a suspension? Totally unsat!


16 posted on 10/07/2014 12:47:13 AM PDT by MeatshieldActual (Texan Independence, now and forever!)
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