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Officials work to find, contain those closest to Dallas Ebola patient [cleanup not their job]
Dallas Morning News ^ | October 3, 2014 | SHERRY JACOBSON

Posted on 10/03/2014 2:52:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Government health officials said Thursday that they were tracking down as many as 100 people who may have had contact with a contagious Ebola patient and were forcing four adults to be isolated at home.

State and county officials executed a communicable disease control order to force four unidentified people,believed to be adults, to remain inside the Dallas apartment where Thomas Eric Duncan developed Ebola symptoms. The order allows health workers to monitor the apartment’s occupants daily. Five children and an unknown number of adults share the apartment at The Ivy in Vickery Meadow in northeast Dallas.

The apartment,where Duncan had been staying since Sept.20, still contained potentially contaminated material Thursday,health officials acknowledged. Duncan’s clothing and bedding were in plastic bags that were still in the apartment. Ebola is transmitted by contact with an infected patient’s bodily fluids.

Dallas County Health and Human Services Director Zachary Thompson,asked why no agency had removed the contaminated goods,said that was not his department’s responsibility. Members of his staff went into the apartment only to administer tests and not to help the family clean up...

County Judge Clay Jenkins said Duncan’s personal items will be “appropriately disposed of.”

“They have a bag of household trash and they have mattresses pushed against the wall,”Jenkins said. “We are going to,as quickly as possible,improve the hygiene there.”

Earlier this week,the county had asked the apartment’s occupants to stay home and be available for testing. Each occupant was to have his or her temperature taken twice a day.

But when Dr. Christopher Perkins,the county’s medical director,showed up Wednesday to check temperatures,not everyone was home.

“There was noncompliance with the request to stay home,”said Thompson.

One of the children attended school Thursday, despite a stay-at-home order issued the day before by Dallas school officials. Students at four Dallas schools are believed to have had close contact with Duncan.

(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cdc; contamination; disease; ebola
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Worth a full read. Akin to a Keystone Cop effort.

But the CDC tells us not to worry, that "This is what we do!!"

1 posted on 10/03/2014 2:52:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
One of the children attended school Thursday, despite a stay-at-home order issued the day before ...

wow

2 posted on 10/03/2014 2:56:16 AM PDT by Principled (Obama: Unblemished by success.)
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And they’ve added another school to the list where there’s been contact.

“The list of North Texas schools affected by the Ebola inquiry grew Thursday to include one in Richardson ISD. Tim Clark, a spokesman for the district, said it was notified Thursday by Dallas County health officials that three siblings who attend Wallace Elementary School in Lake Highlands “potentially had contact with the Ebola patient.””


3 posted on 10/03/2014 3:02:28 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

4 posted on 10/03/2014 3:05:06 AM PDT by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: Principled

Hahahaha. I guess the people order to stay home didn’t understand the order (”Oh, you mean the kids too?”), and nobody told the school. And the authority on cleanup is a judge? I thought judges were versed in the law, not in actually doing things. well, as they say, thank God we don’t get all the government we pay for.


5 posted on 10/03/2014 3:07:21 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

How many egregious examples do we need to testify to the fact that government is good at only one thing...giving jobs to the totally incompetent. Our government is an embarrassment to its citizens.


6 posted on 10/03/2014 3:16:58 AM PDT by txrefugee
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"State and county officials executed a communicable disease control order to force four unidentified people,believed to be adults, to remain inside the Dallas apartment where Thomas Eric Duncan developed Ebola symptoms . . . Five children and an unknown number of adults share the apartment . . . One of the children attended school Thursday, despite a stay-at-home order issued the day before . . ."

How can they confine Ebola-exposed adults in an apartment with people who are allowed to come and go? This makes no sense, almost as if Obama was in charge.

7 posted on 10/03/2014 3:17:32 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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It costs between $3k and $25k to clean a meth house. So, the question is...how much would be charged for ebola house? I noticed that none of the first dozen companies they called for the Dallas episode....would discuss the matter, no matter what the cost. Nor the one company that did accept the deal....were not acknowledging what they charged. My humble guess is that they quoted off some ridiculous price of $10k for two guys and eight hours of work each, and the county authority agreed.

This would bring me to the real topic of discussion here....just how many hazmat companies out there would even consider this and just how far can you push the pricing scheme? A typical hazmat worker makes $18 an hour. For Ebola? I doubt if anyone will discuss work like this unless you get up to $40 an hour minimum per individual. Imagine trying to clean up an entire passenger plane? Figure at least two-hundred man-hours of work.


8 posted on 10/03/2014 3:23:02 AM PDT by pepsionice
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As per all of the Hollywood movies about epidemics, I thought the CDC or the military swoops in with hazmat suits to clean up contaminated premises and evacuate people exposed.

Maybe a Hollywood director should run the CDC!


9 posted on 10/03/2014 3:26:07 AM PDT by Mrs. Frogjerk
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“...Five children and an unknown number of adults share the apartment at The Ivy in Vickery Meadow in northeast Dallas.” Plus 4 adults.


Somehow, I smell an illegal rat’s nest or welfare “hive.”

They also had trouble communicating with the people who lived at the complex due to many different languages being spoken.

Now, the occupants if the “hive” refuse to obey the orders to stay in place and not to leave.

How wonderful: Prehistoric illegal animals from Africa. Illegals who refuse to comply to laws. The infected one came from Africa and had no means of support or job. They have probably infected over 100 nationwide. We are paying for their medical, rent, and food. And, best of all they live in a small containment surrounded in filth and numerous “family members” crowded in like it was in their hut in Africa.

Apparently the complex where they lived was a welfare haven for cheats too.

I would expect that Obama would come over to their house, hug everyone and reassure them that their welfare benefits and free medical care would be taken care of by him (personally) to ensure no discrimination was cause to them.


10 posted on 10/03/2014 3:29:42 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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I just returned from early morning shopping at my local Meijers store and I couldn't help but think that this guy could have stopped into this store after he started exhibiting symptoms, sneezed into his hand then used the shopping cart I just used and transfered more germs onto the $20 dollar bill he handed to the cashier.

I now potentially have those germs on my hands as does the cashier..........

11 posted on 10/03/2014 3:42:31 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Don't harsh my buzz homie......)
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Does anyone find this reassuring from the article re the owner having the outside vomit power washed away?

Thompson, the county health director, said his understanding is that the owner of the apartments power-washed the vomit away.

Thompson said he has walked in the area where the vomiting occurred, and Abbigail Tumpey, a CDC spokeswoman, said there wasn’t much risk of infection unless the vomit hit someone directly.

“This is a very wimpy virus,” she said. “It doesn’t live in the environment for an extended period of time.”


12 posted on 10/03/2014 3:55:52 AM PDT by libbylu
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...wimpy virus

This virus is on the JV team, no worries!


13 posted on 10/03/2014 4:06:13 AM PDT by bigtoona
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These folks have just as much right to be here as you. /s


14 posted on 10/03/2014 4:06:36 AM PDT by petercooper ("I was for letting people keep their health insurance, before I wasn't". --- Barack Obama)
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To: Pollster1; All
How can they confine Ebola-exposed adults in an apartment with people who are allowed to come and go? This makes no sense, almost as if Obama was in charge.

Dallas: "Thompson, the county health director, said his understanding is that the owner of the apartments power-washed the vomit away.

Thompson said he has walked in the area where the vomiting occurred, and Abbigail Tumpey, a CDC spokeswoman, said there wasn’t much risk of infection unless the vomit hit someone directly.

“This is a very wimpy virus,” she said. “It doesn’t live in the environment for an extended period of time.”

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......."A particle of Ebola-Zaire virus is made of only ten proteins, locked together in what looks like a tangle of string. Despite its extreme simplicity as an organism, when Ebola strikes a human it becomes a killing machine, the biological equivalent of a steel axe. The virus is transmitted from one person to the next through contact with blood or other bodily fluids. The symptoms of the disease start out looking like those of malaria: the patient runs a fever and feels weak. Ebola patients proceed to vomiting and diarrhea, which sometimes turns black; and they can develop hiccups. Fewer than half the patients in this outbreak have shown signs of hemorrhage: pinpoint droplets of blood can sometimes glisten on the rims of the eyelids. Around sixty per cent of the victims have died."..

..... He put on personal protective equipment, known as P.P.E.—a type of biohazard gear that consists of a Tyvek whole-body suit, a Tyvek hood with an opening for the eyes, safety goggles, a breathing mask over the mouth and nose, two pairs of nitrile gloves, a plastic apron, and rubber boots—and he walked into one of the Ebola wards, a makeshift structure with walls made of plastic film. There he found the director, Dr. Sheik Humarr Khan, and a nurse wearing biohazard suits and taking care of thirty Ebola patients. “The floor was splashed with blood, vomitus, feces, and urine,” Bausch said recently. Patients in the throes of Ebola often fall out of bed. “You need a whole team to decontaminate the bed and lift the patient up off the floor and put him safely back in bed.” Khan and the nurse were overwhelmed."....... Outbreak

Ebola doesn't sound "wimpy" to me.

Burial team disinfects women suspected of Ebola death...

15 posted on 10/03/2014 4:06:39 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

One of the kids went to school? Others left their quarantined apartment? These people are jerks.


16 posted on 10/03/2014 4:07:20 AM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: libbylu

Check #15


17 posted on 10/03/2014 4:07:54 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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One of the kids went to school? Others left their quarantined apartment? These people are jerks.

What do you expect when the Dallas County Health Director calls Ebola a "whimpy virus?"

18 posted on 10/03/2014 4:09:12 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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CORRECTION! It wasn't the Dallas County Health Director who called Ebola wimpy - it was the spokeswoman for the CDC!

Abbigail Tumpey, a CDC spokeswoman, said there wasn’t much risk of infection unless the vomit hit someone directly. “This is a very wimpy virus,” she said. “It doesn’t live in the environment for an extended period of time.”

19 posted on 10/03/2014 4:14:37 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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True.

Wonder if the County Health Director was suited up when he visited the apartment? Probably not. The CDC spokesperson said there wasn’t “much” risk from the vomit. They are all jerks.


20 posted on 10/03/2014 4:16:46 AM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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