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Oversight Hearing on White House Security 10am ET - LIVE THREAD
C-Span ^ | 09/30/2014 | live

Posted on 09/30/2014 6:33:49 AM PDT by Textide

Secret Service Director Julia Pierson testifies before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee about Secret Service security protocols following a September 19 White House intruder breach.

Hearing starts at 10am Eastern.

C-Span Live: http://www.c-span.org/live/

Fox News article: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/09/30/white-house-intruder-made-it-to-east-room-officials-say/

Committee on Oversight and Government reform: http://oversight.house.gov/

Chairman Issa Preview Statement: http://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Chairman-Issa-Preview-Statement.pdf


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: issaopeningstatement; janetnapolitano; juliapearson; livewhbreachhearing; omargonzalez; secretservice; squattersrights; ssdirector; ssprotocols; thepeopleshouse; usss; whbreach; whbreachhearing; whitehouse; whitehousebreach
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To: Textide
Yep... they're gonna tell us how difficult the job is and we're gonna get a long list of "challenges" they face.

We've got a number of movies that have come out about people taking over the white house. As with everything in hollywood, the difficulty of that task I believe has been overstated in the movies.

41 posted on 09/30/2014 7:42:20 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: Textide

Ralph Basham, Former Secret Service Director under George W. Bush from 2003-2006 is one of the other witnesses. Now giving a bio of himself and speaking about the latest incident.

Stated that we could very easily be discussing why an Iraq war veteran was shot dead on the White House lawn while the first family were not on the premises. Mentioned that split second decisions are part of their job.


42 posted on 09/30/2014 7:44:45 AM PDT by Textide (Lord, grant that I may always be right, for thou knowest I am hard to turn. ~ Scotch-Irish prayer)
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To: Textide
You gotta be kidding me. 😕
43 posted on 09/30/2014 7:45:11 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: fatima

Never saw someone blink so much.She must have a hair in her eye.

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Very nervous ..... also, with the whistle blower leak yesterday that blows out of the water the lie that has already been told about the incident by the Secret Service, she’s majorly on the hot seat ... and under oath.

She says she takes “full responsibility” and will make sure it never happens again (?). Unless she patrols the WH herself, she’s got to rely on her people to do it and as a supervisor, you are only as good as your people - they can make you look very bad or very good. She’s looking very bad right now and she needs to discipline and/or fire some folks and make it clear that she won’t tolerate this..... until there are major consequences, this crap will continue. The supervisors that report to her are first on the list - word has it one of them is overweight, can’t do anything and doesn’t enforce standards with those under her. If this is true, major cleanup needs to happen. Many people claim the title of supervisor, but of those people, very few are actually good at performing that job - unfortunately, many poor supervisors are tolerated and the results filter down the ranks and are predictable. Julia herself may be a poor supervisor, but under Obama, nobody loses their job.


44 posted on 09/30/2014 7:45:14 AM PDT by Qiviut ( One of the most delightful things about a garden is the anticipation it provides. ~W.E. Johns)
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To: Textide

Shoot the next fence jumper right on the WH lawn! The next would be fence jumper would be thinking three times about his next move!


45 posted on 09/30/2014 7:48:16 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: Red_Devil 232

3 bureaucrats testifying. Give them all three 12 hour a day jobs at lowes selling self installed home security systems. Pay them minimum wage... and if they don’t like that offer them a jail cell and move on to something else.


46 posted on 09/30/2014 7:51:22 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Issa just shut down Basham’s self aggrandizing opening statement!


47 posted on 09/30/2014 7:52:30 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: Qiviut

Todd Keil, the third witness, now speaking. He’s the “Former Infrastructure Protection Assistant Secretary, Homeland Security Department, Obama Admin., 2009-2012”.

Every organization “must be willing to learn”. “Time tends to unknowingly blunt the tip of the spear. Management can have the attitude of, ‘This is the way we’ve always done it’.” Money is not the answer. It will magnify management weaknesses.


48 posted on 09/30/2014 7:53:48 AM PDT by Textide (Lord, grant that I may always be right, for thou knowest I am hard to turn. ~ Scotch-Irish prayer)
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To: Textide

Yeah... that statement might have earned him a management position at Loews.


49 posted on 09/30/2014 7:55:12 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Keil seems like he is apt to be going on and on like Basham.


50 posted on 09/30/2014 7:55:13 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: Textide
I am not impressed. By her bio, as well as her performance today in the hearing.

Peter Principle.

51 posted on 09/30/2014 7:56:14 AM PDT by onemiddleamerican (FUBO and all your terrorist agencies/buddies)
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To: Red_Devil 232

The next would be fence jumper would be thinking three times about his next move!

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There are particular people who have stated their aim of flying their flag over the WH. I’m guessing they’re paying close attention and if I were the SS with crap like this going on, I’d be more than a little worried.

As for the optics of ‘shooting’ somebody who has jumped the fence and is headed for the WH, to me it’s like an intruder in my house. The very act of breaking in gives me enough “intent” to feel justified in shooting first instead of onducting a question and answer session to see if they might be a little “off”. Somebody jumping the fence and heading for the WH is showing intent ... doesn’t matter if mentally ill or not because they are just as capable of killing as somebody totally clear mentally.


52 posted on 09/30/2014 7:56:46 AM PDT by Qiviut ( One of the most delightful things about a garden is the anticipation it provides. ~W.E. Johns)
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To: Textide
Why does one guy breaching the White Hut take precedence over millions breaching our border?
53 posted on 09/30/2014 7:57:31 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

No automatic crash button to lock down the front door! Must be hand locked. Amazing!


54 posted on 09/30/2014 7:58:10 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: onemiddleamerican

Peter Principle

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My version: you can’t fall off the floor.


55 posted on 09/30/2014 7:58:18 AM PDT by Qiviut ( One of the most delightful things about a garden is the anticipation it provides. ~W.E. Johns)
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To: kjam22

Mizz Pierson now answering direct questions about the front door.

He’s asking why the Federal Complaint said he was apprehended at the front door.

She says Omar and the front door officer crossed the east hall together into the East Room where another officer assisted the door guard in subduing him.


56 posted on 09/30/2014 7:59:17 AM PDT by Textide (Lord, grant that I may always be right, for thou knowest I am hard to turn. ~ Scotch-Irish prayer)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I hate it when everyone reads their statements.

Can’t anyone talk extemperaneously?

Having had responsibility for the security of over 4,000 people in a corporate headquarters complex in a major urban city known for crime, I’ll tell you that this breach of security represents a complete collapse of what should have been a layered security system.

The old belts and suspenders theory. You don’t rely on just one layer of defense.

This was NOT an unforseeable event. This is an event that could and should have been anticipated, and there should have been training against it.

What if there were not one, but MULTIPLE simultaneous threats occurring?

Mr. Basham even said we could be here talking about why the SS shot and killed an Iraq War veteran suffering from PTSD.

Really? So what?

We could just as well be talking about why half the White House was blown up by someone wearing a suicide vest right now.

The director should resign just out of sheer incompetence and what is left of her honor.

A promise to do better next time is not going to cut it.

There is no acceptable excuse for what occurred, and the same people cannot be left in charge to figure out how it does not happen again.


57 posted on 09/30/2014 8:00:38 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Shoot the next fence jumper right on the WH lawn!

Yep. Security is part optics.

Next jumper dead on lawn, even if a bat-crap crazy nobody, will give others an idea of what awaits them should they try the same exercise.

58 posted on 09/30/2014 8:02:05 AM PDT by onemiddleamerican (FUBO and all your terrorist agencies/buddies)
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To: exit82

This witch is going to lose her job. They are not going to allow parsing words testimony here....


59 posted on 09/30/2014 8:02:45 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: onemiddleamerican

She wants to filibuster each answer and Issa shuts her down each time. Good on Issa!


60 posted on 09/30/2014 8:03:04 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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