The question was about accomplishmentsNice try. Your (bizarre) claim was that my statements about Bush were all false.
"You ought to be able to come up with at least one true claim. You failed. you stated.
Among my statements was that Bush pushed for Amnesty. That's obvious to anyone who read a newspaper during the Bush years. It's not even a remotely controversial fact. But somehow you're not aware of it. So to begin your badly-needed education, try out these links - two of hundreds on the Internet.
(The first link is from the Bush White House).
President Bush's Plan For Comprehensive Immigration Reform
Former President Clinton Praises Bush's Push for Immigration Reform
As for Bush admitting a record number of Muslim immigrants. You weirdly said that was also false. But of course it's true. Another fairly well-known fact that somehow escaped your knowledge.
The number of Muslims admitted under Bush was greater than under Clinton. The number should have gone down to near zero after 9-11. But instead Bush did nothing effective and it went up.
Next time you're tempted to blurt out "false", try to have the faintest clue what you're talking about.
Amnesty is a term of art applied to anyone who does not adhere to an unknown standard of reduced immigration to the United States.
No rehearsal on that obvious fact is needed for anyone on this board.
You dodge the fact that Reagan signed into law massive amnesty for millions of illegal aliens.
That man remains revered by conservatives.
I will not cede one inch of ground to you because the absurd notion that Bush is some sort of coward, infidel, fool, or traitor is not simply inaccurate— it is obscene.
Until people start standing up to this kind of plain nonsense, the nation will continue to spiral down the political sink of cynicism that you and others like you are pushing us all toward.
I will fight you word for word parse for parse.
You have nothing accurate. you walk blithely away from Congress 911 report— NOT BUSH”s.
You shift the amnesty debate to a question about Muslim immigration. Good idea but it does not change the increased border enforcement or fence allocations that the Bush administration enacted. The original question was what has Bush accomplished. It was not a question of what do we all wish he had done. Such wishfulness is at the root of faux conservatism. The brave gusto of ‘what I would have done . . .’ Frankly, I care rather little what you or some unicorn conservative would have done.
As much as it may break your heart to know this, there are muslims who hate and despise Islamic supremacism. As much as it may break your heart to know this, more muslims have been killed by Islamic supremacism than non-muslims. That does not mean we should not empathize and protect non-muslims through immigration provisions— which the Bush administration also increased— but we must understand that Islamic supremacism is a universal global threat. Even Jefferson, when he constituted the US Marines to attack the pirate bases at Tripoli, utilized moderate muslims to attack and overthrow the regime there. We have done that consistently and we will continue to rely on such individuals. Many very conservative people have made this same point.
As a Christian, I strongly support Ted Cruz’s statements about protecting Christians at the Values Voter summit. Ted Cruz is a practical political alternative in 2014 and 2016. I don’t go back in time to try to bash Reagan, I loved and still do love Reagan. He was a great conservative— of his time.
Obama’s governance should be clarifying for the BDS crowd that Bush was heroic in his leadership. Instead we get folks like you digging in their heels desperate to prove Bush the traitor. He is not. You are the one making yourself look foolish. Bush was the man in the political gap. Too few are willing to stand there, but many are happy to criticize how he stood there. Its frankly embarrassing.
Again as I have said a thousand times on FR, I have no beef with anyone saying more should have been done or could be done. But I am not going to trot off into lala land of how great a conservative Reagan is but that bad dude traitor Bush is evil.
That is of course the eerie silence of your post. The absent alternative. I provide tons of alternative ground in my analysis. You leave us with the standard faux conservative abstraction of absolutes. Well, someone will absolutely do the right thing on immigration. Really? What exactly is that?
Some others have said that Roberts should not count as an accomplishment for Bush. I think it is fine to criticize Roberts decisions. I don’t think it is smart to imagine or by default prefer appointments by John Kerry.
As a Texan, I can tell you clearly who is a better senator Cruz or Cornyn. But I am not going to pretend I would prefer Feinstein.
Your initial argument began with the standard hyper sarcastic listing of Bush accomplishments. You do this as a faux conservative because you would rather anonymously pose on the internet as some ideal absolutist than as someone who offers practical alternatives to current problems.
The hell America confronts presently could have begun with much greater earnest in 2000 had Bush not been elected. There is zero doubt in my mind that the nation made a good choice in President Bush. I still believe his leadership on Iraq and the broader war on terror proves everyday to be more true and valuable.
Your attempt to isolate me as without a clue is the agony and joy of FR. You have no real idea who you are dealing with. You pose and pose. I am open to learning something. Its why I hangout on FR. But your post is not telling me much. Muslim immigration to the US has increased and will likely increase in the future. I am not surprised. I did know that. Many muslims— like the Vietnamese during our war there— sided with the US. Guess what happens when we succumb to the cowardice of the anti-war crowd? It needs no explanation and it comes to no surprise that many muslim allies want out of the world Obama left behind.
If Bush is so bad, take up your honored position in the Obama administration. There are openings there I understand. There is no individual more principally committed to proving that Bush was a Bad president than President Obama. Go and take your place there.
Stop wasting your time here.
And another thing . . .
Here is item one of your link posted showing AMNESTY by President Bush:
“1. The United States Must Secure Its Borders
Border Security Is The Basic Responsibility Of A Sovereign Nation And An Urgent Requirement Of Our National Security. We have more than doubled border security funding from $4.6 billion in FY 2001 to $10.4 billion in FY 2007. We will have also increased the number of Border Patrol agents by 63 percent – from just over 9,000 agents at the beginning of this Administration to nearly 15,000 at the end of 2007. We are also on track to increase this number to approximately 18,000 by the end of 2008, doubling the size of the Border Patrol during the President’s time in office.
To Supplement The Border Patrol As Its Numbers Increase, Approximately 6,000 National Guard Members Have Been Sent To Our Southern Border In Coordination With Governors. National Guard units are assisting the Border Patrol by operating surveillance systems, analyzing intelligence, installing fences and vehicle barriers, and building patrol roads. The National Guard is increasing the operational capacity of the Border Patrol to gain control of our Southern border.
The President’s Secure Border Initiative (SBI) Is The Most Technologically Advanced Border Enforcement Initiative In American History. Last year, we initiated a multi-year plan to secure our borders and reduce illegal immigration through comprehensive upgrading of technology used in controlling the border, including improved communications assets, expanded use of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles, and state-of-the-art detection technology.
The Administration Is Increasing Infrastructure Investment At The Border. We are expanding detention capacity and developing rapidly deployable fencing technology that will be rolled out this year. In addition, the President is committed to building hundreds of miles of integrated, tactical infrastructure along the Southern border, which includes vehicle barriers, checkpoints, and lighting to help detect, deter, and prevent people from entering our country illegally.
The Administration Has Effectively Ended “Catch And Release” For Illegal Aliens Apprehended At The Borders. In FY06 and FY07 the Administration funded 6,700 new detention beds, for a total of 27,500 detention beds this fiscal year.
The Administration Expanded The Use Of “Expedited Removal,” Which Allows Us To Send Illegal Immigrants Home More Quickly. The President is also working with Congress to mitigate court-imposed requirements that the Federal government release dangerous criminal aliens if their home countries do not take them back within a certain period of time.
The Administration Is Working Closely With State And Local Law Enforcement To Stop Illegal Immigration. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has the resources to train 1,500 State and local law enforcement officers under the 287(g) program in 2006 and 2007. DHS will work with its State and local partners to expand these programs, and received $50 million in 2006 supplemental funding for this effort. In addition, DHS is expanding to State and local law enforcement agencies the Criminal Alien Program (CAP) previously in place with the Federal Bureau of Prisons to identify illegal aliens who are incarcerated in Federal, State, and local jails.”
this is 2007 advocacy by the Bush administration. Pretty much all of these items came to pass. Are you willing to say that these things are AMNESTY and that you would like them to be repealed in future legislation?
I was tempted to post the entire link of what you posted. I don’t think any of it meets a definitional test for AMNESTY.