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To: centurion316

If the Senate swings back to Reid in 2016, what possible gains will be made in Obama’s final 2 years with a slight majority? I don’t have a Senate seat up this year in FL, so I have no say in this, but I really don’t think it makes much of a difference. It’s going to be a lame duck term with a narcissist fighting for his left-wing legacy. Nothing of any value get signed.

As far as judges, I don’t think the Supreme Court makeup will be impacted at all if there are 51 Republicans, we’ll still have 3+ defections for any nominee from Obama.

The only real excitement I have would be watching a defeated Reid. Sounds like he’d be back in 2 years anyway.


10 posted on 09/24/2014 7:03:20 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: ilgipper
Senator seats in the 2016 election:

Class III - Senators Whose Terms of Service Expire in 2017

Class III terms run from the beginning of the 112th Congress on January 3, 2011, to the end of the 114th Congress on January 3, 2017. Senators in Class III were elected to office in the November 2010 general election, unless they took their seat through appointment or special election.

Democrats Republicans
Bennet, Michael F. (D-CO)
Blumenthal, Richard (D-CT)
Boxer, Barbara (D-CA)
Leahy, Patrick J. (D-VT)
Mikulski, Barbara A. (D-MD)
Murray, Patty (D-WA)
Reid, Harry (D-NV)
Schatz, Brian (D-HI)
Schumer, Charles E. (D-NY)
Wyden, Ron (D-OR)
Ayotte, Kelly (R-NH)
Blunt, Roy (R-MO)
Boozman, John (R-AR)
Burr, Richard (R-NC)
Coats, Daniel (R-IN)
Coburn, Tom (R-OK)
Crapo, Mike (R-ID)
Grassley, Chuck (R-IA)
Hoeven, John (R-ND)
Isakson, Johnny (R-GA)
Johnson, Ron (R-WI)
Kirk, Mark (R-IL)
Lee, Mike (R-UT)
McCain, John (R-AZ)
Moran, Jerry (R-KS)
Murkowski, Lisa (R-AK)
Paul, Rand (R-KY)
Portman, Rob (R-OH)
Rubio, Marco (R-FL)
Scott, Tim (R-SC)
Shelby, Richard C. (R-AL)
Thune, John (R-SD)
Toomey, Patrick J. (R-PA)
Vitter, David (R-LA)

14 posted on 09/24/2014 7:13:38 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: ilgipper

Reid left the judicial nominee filibuster in place for SCOTUS appointees. And for all his faults McConnell has promised to put it back in place for all other nominees.

Which means that the requirement is 60 votes.

However with a Reid-controlled Senate he could nuke the filibuster for SCOTUS nominees too. Hard to see that happening with a GOP senate.


15 posted on 09/24/2014 7:17:03 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: ilgipper

If the Senate swings back to Reid in 2016, what possible gains will be made in Obama’s final 2 years with a slight majority? I don’t have a Senate seat up this year in FL, so I have no say in this, but I really don’t think it makes much of a difference. It’s going to be a lame duck term with a narcissist fighting for his left-wing legacy. Nothing of any value get signed.

As far as judges, I don’t think the Supreme Court makeup will be impacted at all if there are 51 Republicans, we’ll still have 3+ defections for any nominee from Obama.

The only real excitement I have would be watching a defeated Reid. Sounds like he’d be back in 2 years anyway.


Spot on. Good summary.

The one thing the last 5 years have shown is that there will be no engaged opposition party to the obama agenda. Trying to scare conservatives RE judges is silly. Obama relishes a fight on judges. We’ve seen these Obama/GOP beltway battles before and know how it always ends: GOP surrender. With 2016 being a POTUS election year the GOP will once again be in tip toe mode and have zero interest in engaging Obama.

Despite the brow beatings of GOP party hobbyists there is really no reason for conservatives to bust their hinds so McConnell & co can get their precious committee chairs for two years.

The beltway GOP have shown not a shred of interest in defending my constitution rights. So I am just returning the favor with my non interest in supporting them. When the GOP decides to govern in a conservative manner and opposes the dem agenda substantively, I will be all in. Until then, adios.


16 posted on 09/24/2014 7:19:01 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: ilgipper

The big difference is the advancement of Republicans, including some of the most Conservative of our Senators, into the chairmanships of the Senate. The chairs are the most powerful people in Washington, and they will set the agenda, control the business of the committees, and set the stage for action by the whole Senate. The current Reid practice of slipping liberal stealth legislation into must pass bills will cease. That alone is full justification for going all out to take the Senate. As you point out, 2016 favors the Democrats for the Senate races. We don’t want to start that cycle behind.

The notion that there is no difference between Republicans and Democrats is one of the most ludicrous things that I have heard in a very long time.


17 posted on 09/24/2014 7:19:30 AM PDT by centurion316
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