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Obama in 2009: F-22 Jets Used to Strike Syria 'Outdated and Unnecessary'
Breitbart ^ | September 23, 2014 | Staff

Posted on 09/23/2014 9:47:43 AM PDT by Rufus2007

President Barack Obama dismissed the F-22 fighter jets used during Monday’s airstrikes against terrorist targets in Syria as “outdated and unnecessary” in a speech on July 21, 2009.

“I reject the notion that we have to waste billions of taxpayer dollars on outdated and unnecessary defense projects to keep this nation secure” Obama said. "That's why I'm grateful that the Senate just voted against an additional $1.75 billion to buy F-22 fighter jets that military experts and members of both parties say we do not need.”

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bho44; defense; f22; obamanewisisstrategy; raptor; syriaairstrikes
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The old and outdated are now carrying out Obama's war, which either means he had no idea what he was talking about at the time, or has no idea what he is doing now ... well, or possibly both.
1 posted on 09/23/2014 9:47:43 AM PDT by Rufus2007
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To: Rufus2007

Obama, IIRC, has dumped a lot of our ranking commanders and replaced them, if he created an echo chamber, our military is in a mess.


2 posted on 09/23/2014 9:49:25 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Rufus2007
Obama has made the F-22 relevant even the most low intensity conflict by making sure that even the most primitive terrorists are well stocked with state of the art American stinger missiles that can easily hit an F-15 or F-16
3 posted on 09/23/2014 9:52:19 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: rdcbn

Time to get rid of this outdated pResident.


4 posted on 09/23/2014 9:55:38 AM PDT by DonkeyBonker (Hard to paddle against the flow of sewage coming out of the White House.)
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To: Rufus2007
I can see the emails going out on all the mainstream media outlets to DO NOT mention this.
5 posted on 09/23/2014 10:00:59 AM PDT by McGruff (we're leaving behind a sovereign, stable and self-reliant Iraq - Barack Obama)
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To: rdcbn

I think a few thousand F/A-18s in various configurations would be sufficient. Modified avionics, RADAR, etc., would keep this aircraft a formidable weapon and it’s proven itself to be highly reliable and capable in all scenarios.


6 posted on 09/23/2014 10:12:32 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Rufus2007

THE_TREASON_NEVER_STOPS_PING!


7 posted on 09/23/2014 10:14:47 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: Rufus2007

When it’s to their advantage, Liberals always take credit for the success of weapons systems that they opposed.


8 posted on 09/23/2014 10:21:12 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Rufus2007

You need the F-22 to shoot down CHICOMS and maybe others sometime in the future.


9 posted on 09/23/2014 10:22:11 AM PDT by pleasenotcalifornia
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To: rdcbn

Stingers at heat seekers, and the F-22 -optimized as a fighter, not a bomber or light strike platform) throws a significantly higher IR signature than the B-2 or F-117 from many aspects. While it does wear IR-difussing paint, from the rear it’s certainly as high as an F-16 or F-15.


10 posted on 09/23/2014 10:27:20 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: The Duke
Welcome to the Surreal "reality" of




11 posted on 09/23/2014 10:27:37 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Please RESIGN Mr. President Its the RIGHT thing to do_RETIRE THE REGIME!)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

The biggest costs for fighter type aircraft are development costs, electronics and engines.

Many of the F-35 systems will be retrofitted to existing aircraft, but they won’t come cheap.

A new production F-18 or F-15 with an updated F-35 style electronics package is about as expensive as an F-35. The new systems just cost a ton of money

For example, the costs for a Euro Fighter Typhoon are in the range of $159 million a plane.


12 posted on 09/23/2014 10:30:09 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: rdcbn

To add: some F-16s are wearing the IR diffusing paint (Have Glass), mostly the ones based at Spangdahlem AFB.


13 posted on 09/23/2014 10:34:33 AM PDT by tanknetter
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If Obama has screwed up the Middle East so badly that we need to fly F-22 s than the situation is MUCH worse than we are being led to believe and Obama needs to do some serious explaining
14 posted on 09/23/2014 10:35:40 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: pleasenotcalifornia

......the troubling part of what you say though is that the French and Germans, in war games against the US, have shot the plane down several times. I repeat, “THE FRENCH”!!!

Now, it could be pilot error, or a fluke or whatever but it is real and it did happen and even top of the line fighter pilots (American) say it DID happen and it was a legit one on one fight (artificial). And, they have the tapes to prove it.

So, have we paid 143 million dollars for a plane that’s a fraud? That’s the question.

I am not qualified to be the judge and make that call but I can damn sure ask the question as I send off a check this very minute for yet another 5 grand to government!!!!


15 posted on 09/23/2014 10:36:03 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Rufus2007

We may well need F-22s as the countermeasure to Turkish F-35s in the future.


16 posted on 09/23/2014 10:37:02 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: rdcbn

I’m guessing the F-22s were used for two reasons:

First, to start giving Raptor pilots combat time. Which is pretty important these days in moving up the promotion ladder.

Second, to see how well it integrated in real world scenarios. Red Flag can only go so far. And Syria apparantly has one of the best air defense networks on the planet.

I really don’t see sending Raptors as a big deal.


17 posted on 09/23/2014 10:40:24 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter

Are we bombing the Syrian government?


18 posted on 09/23/2014 10:42:45 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Cen-Tejas

F-15s routinely get “shot down” in exercises. But in nearly 40 years of operational service, iirc not a single one has ever been lost in air to air combat.


19 posted on 09/23/2014 10:42:59 AM PDT by tanknetter
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"American stinger missiles that can easily hit an F-15 or F-16 "

Yeah, if taking off or on landing approach.

But the same would be true of the F22.

20 posted on 09/23/2014 10:48:42 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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