“… one of the greatest fears I have is that we will not have doctors to provide care; will not have places and that this procedure will become more and more isolated from women’s health.”
Posted on 09/23/2014 7:46:38 AM PDT by wagglebee
James McMahon, late term abortionist, now deceased, once said: “I frankly think the soul or personage comes in when the fetus is accepted by the mother.”
LA Times, The Abortions of Last Resort, 1-7-1990
McMahon performed partial-birth abortions when they were legal. It’s interesting what he says here – one wonders what gives a woman so much power that she can create a soul just by her attitude and opinion. If the woman never accepts the baby, if she still continues to reject the baby after he or she is born, does the baby still not have a soul?
“… one of the greatest fears I have is that we will not have doctors to provide care; will not have places and that this procedure will become more and more isolated from women’s health.”
Peggy Romberg, director of Texas Family Planning Association
From a speech given to Texas Tech Medical Students for Choice, March 31, 2000
Quoted in Mark Crutcher “Access: the Key to Pro-Life Victory” Life Dynamics Incorporated,
Molly Yard, then president of the National Organization for Women, gave an interview with New Dimensions magazine about when a “fetus” becomes human being:
Q: When do you believe the fetus becomes a viable human being?
A: If you read the medical knowledge, 26 weeks is probably the earliest. As a matter of fact, I was just reading figures that indicate that a fetus born before 30 weeks has almost no chance of making it and, if it does, it is going to suffer all its life from all kinds of problems.
Q: Would you recommend 30 weeks is a cutoff point for allowing abortions?
A: I am not recommending anything. I am saying that Roe V Wade was very properly decided. It says that women have a constitutional right to control their reproductive lives, that they have the absolute right to choose it in the 1st and 2nd trimesters, and in the 3rd trimester the state has an interest
“Voices of the Abortion Debate” New Dimensions, 1990First of all, does it really make sense to say that this baby below (28 weeks) is not a person
But this baby (32 weeks) is a person?
What’s the huge difference between the two? There’s not much difference on a developmental level, though one does have stronger lungs than the other. Both are capable of surviving outside a woman’s womb. Of course, Molly Yard’s statistics on when the baby can survive are outdated –In fact, they weren’t even true in 1990. Today, the survival rate of babies at 27 weeks is 90% or higher. babies as young as 21 weeks have survived being born prematurely.
Roe V Wade did allow restrictions on abortion in the third trimester, but these restrictions could only go into effect if they had an exception for the “health” of the mother. Doe v. Bolton, a companion case to Roe V Wade that is lesser-known, defined health in very broad terms, including emotional health, meaning that such a law (banning third trimester abortions) is toothless and cannot truly be enforced– The woman could make the case that the abortion would be detrimental to her emotional well-being.
Note also that Molly Yard is not prepared to ban abortion, even after, in her opinion, the “fetus” becomes a human being.
More Humanism on display.
“Man” determines right and wrong, and now, “Man” determines when a soul enters the unborn baby.
“You will be as gods, knowing good and evil”
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The National Organization against Women has a lot to answer for.
James McMahon is now in eternity and knows that he was wrong.
Of course they don’t actually say that.
They believe that deciding what or who is human is the job of liberal justices, same ones who show up to celebrate gay marriages. .
No presser from Hell as of late from the good DR.!
Our callous disregard for the sanctity of life in accepting abortion can only expand to legalizing euthanasia and eventually simply killing the old, the infirm or others the state says are wastes of its resources. The Obamacare death panels are just the start.
Was this from the Quran, Outrageous Acts and
Everyday Rebellions, the Nancy Pelosi Goes to “Church” coloring book, or Dreams from My Father?
You got I, MrB. The lies of the serpent.
Yeh not God or anything. If the guy recognized God as creating souls he would have to admit he’s a killer.
Jeremaih 1:5 “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, And before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you a prophet to the nations.”
Many years ago when I was in college I worked in a Neonatal Intensive Care Unit. Most of our babies were premature babies, some born as early as 6 months gestation. Literally around the corner in the same hospital there was a unit euphemistically called the “Fertility Control Center” where babies were being killed by abortion. Some of them were older, gestationally, than those we were legally required to save in the NICU. I thought to myself that the only difference between the ones who we were legally required to save, and those who were being killed about 100 paces away, was that the ones in the NICU were wanted by their mothers. And I thought it’s a very bad road to go down to say that we can kill some people because they’re not wanted. That’s rather Hitlerian, I think. Ever since, I’ve been 100% pro-life.
That has got to be one of the biggest, most treacherous rationalizations ever.
There was a German Major who protested at being called a Monster. “We used gas! We made sure it killed efficiently. We didn’t torture them!”
I wonder what theological basis he has for that claim. Aside from wishful thinking, that is.
The lies of the serpent.
If the mother dies giving birth and can’t accept the baby, then what...is it now a soulless zombie?
Did he not follow the law as prescribed by nine SC judges?
In the US there is no higher authority.
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