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SCOTLAND SAYS NO! But clear poll result triggers a constitutional earthquake
The Daily Mail ^ | 19 September 2014 | Matt Chorley

Posted on 09/19/2014 1:13:03 AM PDT by Fenhalls555

Alex Salmond today admitted defeat in his battle for Scottish independence, as almost two million people voted to remain in the United Kingdom.

On the worst day of his political life, the First Minister tried to put a brave face on the electorate’s crushing verdict, claiming that it showed only that a majority had decided ‘at this stage’ not to become an independent country.

But with all councils declared, No had secured 55 per cent of the vote, a 10-point lead which will trigger speculation about whether Mr Salmond can survive as leader of the Scottish Nationalists.

The Queen has been ‘closely’ monitoring the outcome of the vote, and is expected to issue a public statement welcoming the survival of the 307-year Union later today.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 05072015; 2015election; alexsalmond; election2015; scotland; scotlandyet; unitedkingdom
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To: AdmSmith

One other difference, in Scotland, a Nazi lead coup government was not in the process of solidifying control over the region.


41 posted on 09/19/2014 8:13:01 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: dead

Things that make you go hmmmm,,


42 posted on 09/19/2014 8:13:50 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: caww

Don’t you mean Mexican/Muslim?


43 posted on 09/19/2014 8:56:41 AM PDT by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: Fenhalls555
I think it was the Queens press release the day before that changed their minds:

“The trouble with Scotland... is that it’s full of Scots! Perhaps the time has come to reinstitute an old custom. Grant the nobles prima noctes. First night, when any common girl inhabiting their lands is married, our nobles shall have sexual rights to her on the night of her wedding. If we can’t get them out, we breed them out.”

"It is my Noble right!"


44 posted on 09/19/2014 9:06:40 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: taildragger

The large banks based there had promised to move out over a Yes vote. So your guess is about right. Scotland would quickly have turned into an unemployed cesspool.


45 posted on 09/19/2014 11:09:39 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: djf
BRAVO!!! to the people of UK and Scotland. No one was killed. No buildings burned down. No violent mass organizations or demonstrations. Just people lined up to vote, and respecting the results!

Certain Freepers will tell you that our federal government would send the full force of our military against any U.S. state that did the same thing.

It's nuts, I know, but such is the depth of paranoia around here.

46 posted on 09/19/2014 12:05:26 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: BobL
Being a Texan, the results are a bummer.

Not really.

No matter the outcome of the Scottish independence vote, it shows that states can peacefully secede from a long established political union without going to war over it.

Such has been my contention all along, when discussing possible Texas secession.

The vote might go the other way if we held it in Texas. And unlike Scotland, Texas could easily hold its own as an independent nation.

47 posted on 09/19/2014 12:14:17 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: cherokee1
The large banks based there had promised to move out over a Yes vote. So your guess is about right. Scotland would quickly have turned into an unemployed cesspool.


The way I read it was that the major banks would move their headquarters out of Scotland - mainly because the issue of Scottish currency was completely up in the air.

No actual banking jobs in Scotland were really threatened.

The currency issue and what that would do to both economies was the really big unknown issue that swayed folks in the No direction IMHO.

48 posted on 09/19/2014 12:25:42 PM PDT by az_gila
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To: dead

And Dewey won too !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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49 posted on 09/19/2014 12:31:43 PM PDT by Mears
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To: goldstategop

When England no longer has to pay for everything, that will be good too.


50 posted on 09/19/2014 12:41:12 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Zeppo

The Dali Lama ...LOL. He’s about as corny as they get! But that’s ok...as long as he can keep a dead issue “reincarnated” his purse will be full.


51 posted on 09/19/2014 1:05:52 PM PDT by caww
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To: Windflier

...” Texas could easily hold its own as an independent nation”...

Now that could almost make me move there!


52 posted on 09/19/2014 1:07:02 PM PDT by caww
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To: NKP_Vet

...”With conservatives like England has who in the world needs liberals”....

Exactly.....


53 posted on 09/19/2014 1:10:43 PM PDT by caww
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To: goldstategop

I agree it is Good for the UK, but I also think in the long run the UK is obsolete as long as it remains member and strong supporter of the EU and UN.

The very economic and military security that made the united kingdom, like the United States necessary is being replaced with anther union. frankly its only a matter of time before more Scotsmen, welsh, Irish, and English realize that, and persent their politicians with a simple choice. UK or EU.

They don’t really have the money or need to be paying for both of them, indeed people like to say the UK is wealthy, but the truth is comparatively speaking if the UK was a member of our union it would be ranked perhaps 49th at best in wealth among our states just in front of Mississippi by just barely over a thousand dollars person, and that is not counting the difference in buying power among theses united States.(A dollar goes a lot further in Mississippi than it does in New York).


54 posted on 09/19/2014 2:05:21 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Fenhalls555

“I was hoping for a Yes vote.”

Just wait, Scottish Independence hasn’t been defeated by numerous military defeats to the English, it won’t be defeated by one lousy vote.

Scottish Nationalism is growing all England can do is satisfy it with a form of Federalism already being rapidly made obsolete by same politicians with the EU & NATO. Frankly the UK is a thing of sentiment 300 years old in a land of thousands of years of separation and warfare.

I furthermore don’t buy the argument that the Scots are socialist, i think they were using theses issues as ploys to win easy support from dependence. I do however believe that they wold have carried out their policy on getting rid of the nukes largely out of necessity as England is unlikely to allow such valuable assets to remain in control of a foreign country, and Scotland is unlikely to be willing to foot the R&D bill necessary to sustain them.


55 posted on 09/19/2014 2:13:17 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Fenhalls555

Yep, me too.


56 posted on 09/19/2014 4:43:49 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Fenhalls555

Who knows what the true result was as there is evidence that many yes votes were placed into the no pile thus counted as no votes... it’s all quite counter logic.


57 posted on 09/20/2014 12:33:12 AM PDT by Republican1795.
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To: DesertRhino
One other difference, in Scotland, a Nazi lead coup government was not in the process of solidifying control over the region.

Although I dislike Putin, I would not call him a Nazi, he is just a narcissist http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/04/vladimir-putin-narcissist/360544/
58 posted on 09/20/2014 2:45:59 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/04/vladimir-putin-narcissist/360544/


59 posted on 09/20/2014 2:46:43 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: Impy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; GOPsterinMA; randita

I’m not shocked. The biggest “no” margins were the at the southern parts on the English border.


60 posted on 09/20/2014 10:14:03 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (The War on Drugs is Big Government statism)
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