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Targeting Libertarians with Clever Humor…and Not-So-Clever Humor
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| September 15, 2014
| Daniel J. Mitchell
Posted on 09/15/2014 8:33:27 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: BenLurkin
What exactly do you want me to tell you?As I said: How well has that "defense" worked and with what unintended negative consequences?
And are those behaviors less malum in se than the Biblically-condemned practice of neglecting the needs of the poor? What ought the governmental arm of society do regarding that wrong?
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posted on
09/15/2014 12:32:26 PM PDT
by
ConservingFreedom
(A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
To: BenLurkin
My bad.That much we can agree on. You can make yourself clear - or not. No skin off my nose either way.
122
posted on
09/15/2014 12:33:41 PM PDT
by
ConservingFreedom
(A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
To: ConservingFreedom
Oh........you want me to answer
your questions.
I have a better idea. Tell us what you think.
That way it is a discussion -- and not a failed cross-examination.
123
posted on
09/15/2014 12:35:18 PM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
To: ConservingFreedom
Libertarianism (big L) is a utopian vision; an elegant theory. But as a wiser man then myself once observed:
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.
124
posted on
09/15/2014 12:36:29 PM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
To: BenLurkin
Legal banning as a "defense" against drug use and prostitution has worked poorly; while e.g. two-thirds of murders are solved, the percentage of acts of drug use and prostitution that even become known to the authorities is assuredly orders of magnitude smaller. The scant success of this "defense" has come with severe unintended negative consequences - most notably putting big ban-inflated profits into the hands of criminals.
Further, those behaviors are not substantially (if at all) less malum in se than the Biblically-condemned practice of neglecting the needs of the poor - which I've never seen any social conservative agree should be penalized by government (nor do I think it should be).
Your turn - tell us why you disagree.
125
posted on
09/15/2014 12:43:27 PM PDT
by
ConservingFreedom
(A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
To: ConservingFreedom
126
posted on
09/15/2014 12:44:55 PM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
To: BenLurkin
Libertarianism (big L) is a utopian vision; an elegant theory. But as a wiser man then myself once observed:In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.
I'm not aware of any practical problems with limiting government to the defense of individual rights. Are you? Seems to me that's a mantra of the liberals: 'Freedom can't work.'
127
posted on
09/15/2014 12:45:31 PM PDT
by
ConservingFreedom
(A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
To: BenLurkin
Nonresponsive - in post #125 I show the practical failings of your social conservative policies.
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posted on
09/15/2014 12:47:05 PM PDT
by
ConservingFreedom
(A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
To: ConservingFreedom
I’m not trying to convince you of anything — and even if I were, I would not submit to cross-examination by you.
You disagree with my opinions regarding Libertarianism, and that’s okay. I know you’re not trying to shout me down just because we disagree.
129
posted on
09/15/2014 12:52:40 PM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
To: BenLurkin
Im not trying to convince you of anything Nor I you; I'm using this exchange to address open minds.
and even if I were, I would not submit to cross-examination by you.
My stating my views and then asking you why you disagree is a "cross-examination"?
You disagree with my opinions regarding Libertarianism, and thats okay. I know youre not trying to shout me down just because we disagree.
I'm pointing out the numerous flaws in your arguments - if the sound is painful for you, I can't help that.
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posted on
09/15/2014 12:59:07 PM PDT
by
ConservingFreedom
(A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
To: Responsibility2nd
How could you forget to say who "admits they prefer taxes" and in exactly what words?
131
posted on
09/15/2014 1:01:57 PM PDT
by
ConservingFreedom
(A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
To: ConservingFreedom
I know your’re dense. But my original claim was also questioned and answered.
Try to keep up.
132
posted on
09/15/2014 1:07:55 PM PDT
by
Responsibility2nd
(NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
To: ConservingFreedom
If I ever get around to making any arguments — feel free to point out any flaws. I assure you I will feel no pain from anything you might say.
The Libertarians I have met have all been very bright people. Smart cookies, every one.
I have no doubt that they can give a well-reasoned explanation as to why drug addiction is decent and prostitution is humane.
133
posted on
09/15/2014 1:11:51 PM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
To: Kaslin
The only other threads where you see such rabid responses are those relating to Apple Inc.
134
posted on
09/15/2014 1:20:21 PM PDT
by
zeugma
(The act of observing disturbs the observed.)
To: BenLurkin
This is your acknowledgement of the decent and humane lie yo untold earlier.
You’re right I’ve learned not to expect honestly from you.
Go play with your nanny state friends.
To: Responsibility2nd; morphing libertarian
These libs ADMIT they prefer taxes.ml prefers certain taxes over others - nothing unconservative about that comparative statement.
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posted on
09/15/2014 1:42:17 PM PDT
by
ConservingFreedom
(A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
To: ConservingFreedom
Tired of looking for any logic. When some one posts lies and distortions hard to believe they want to hear anything to the contrary.
Theses threads pop up a few times a week. Mostly same crap from one or two people.
Gets boring and tiresome.
To: ConservingFreedom
They want confiscatory taxes but not tax revenue form things in which we can decide to not participate.
Got no response to that point I made earlier.
Sorry I’m out of this thread.
To: morphing libertarian
No, FRiend. I will not allow you to shout me down simply because you do not like what I have to say.
And a Friendly word of advice, if I may: Don’t be so thin skinned. It’s bad for your blood pressure.
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posted on
09/15/2014 1:45:49 PM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
To: BenLurkin
If I ever get around to making any argumentsOh, you have - in your tendentious characterizations, e.g., "Now....what to do about other malum in se behaviors such as drug use and prostitution? So far, society ( American society) has refused to be left defenseless against those particular offenses against society."
feel free to point out any flaws.
Done.
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posted on
09/15/2014 1:47:10 PM PDT
by
ConservingFreedom
(A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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