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Joan Rivers And Me
Townhall.com ^ | September 5, 2014 | Cal Thomas

Posted on 09/05/2014 2:33:47 PM PDT by Kaslin

We met by accident. How else could it have been with two people who are so different? Or are we?

It was the early 1980s when a tabloid called me. They were doing a story on Joan Rivers and thought I, a conservative, would give them a quote critical of her. I said, "I won't speak to you and I don't want to be quoted as saying I won't speak to you."

They made up a quote, claiming I thought she was a terrible person.

I wrote her a letter in care of "The Tonight Show" where at the time she was substitute host for Johnny Carson. I said I hoped it wasn't necessary to deny something I didn't say and that I actually liked some of her work. She replied with a gracious handwritten note on pink stationery and included a "Can We Talk" button, which was her signature saying.

Sometime later her husband, Edgar Rosenberg, took his life. I wrote her expressing condolences. We subsequently met on several occasions and after one performance she introduced me to people backstage as "the man who wrote me a wonderful letter after Edgar died."

Joan Molinsky was born in Brooklyn, New York. Though her father was a doctor, no one made much money during the Depression and the war years that followed. In her autobiography (with Richard Meryman), "Enter Talking," Joan says her mother thought MD should stand for "making dollars."

Her parents thought she was throwing away her college education -- and financial security -- by her interest in show business, but while Joan worked as a department store sales girl, earning what would be pocket change today, she had her eyes on the stage as early as her teen years.

Whatever a "family values" person might think of her act, which often included coarse language, they should appreciate her work ethic. Joan Rivers played burlesque houses and other dives that today would be shut down by the health department. She never quit, but persevered until success found her.

Insecure over money, Joan embraced her greatest asset. In her book, Joan wrote: "If I was obscenely pushy, that is what drive is -- wanting the impossible, wanting it all, never knuckling under to an obstacle, pushing till you get what you want. I wanted to be a star. ... If I ever become somebody who stops fighting for my place in the spotlight, I will be finished. Let us not be sentimental about this. This is what reaching the top and staying there means in this business -- and in the automobile business and the garment business and in politics."

One might argue whether having it "all" when you can't take it all, or any part of all with you is worth it, but if success is your vehicle and drive the fuel, then Joan succeeded by any standard and for far longer than most entertainers.

We too often judge people by labels and what we see on the outside. Reading Joan's book and knowing her just a little showed me the woman behind the facade, which was quite different from her public personae.

In the inscription to "Enter Talking" she wrote, "To Cal, thank you for being so terrific over the years. -- Joan Rivers."

No, Joan, you were the terrific one.


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To: Kaslin

We loved to go see her when we were in Vegas and she would be playing at one of the hotel’s.


21 posted on 09/05/2014 3:25:19 PM PDT by Faith-Hope
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To: Kaslin

Her face is just scary.


22 posted on 09/05/2014 3:25:32 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: minnesota_bound
Her face is just scary.

Just wait.

23 posted on 09/05/2014 3:49:34 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are.)
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To: ravenwolf

I think he was saying he wouldn’t talk to the press, not Joan.

He wanted to let her know he didn’t talk to them and what was printed was a fabrication.

Even if you don’t like someone, I think it’s a good idea to let them know you didn’t say what was printed.


24 posted on 09/05/2014 3:58:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: Ann Archy

That’s hardly an excuse.


25 posted on 09/05/2014 4:38:50 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: DoughtyOne

I think he was saying he wouldn’t talk to the press, not Joan.


Ok makes sense, thanks.


26 posted on 09/05/2014 5:14:26 PM PDT by ravenwolf (nd)
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To: ravenwolf

You bet RavenWolf. Take care...


27 posted on 09/05/2014 5:22:52 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: 9YearLurker

Can’t find the ones online where she said Christians (or maybe just conservative Christians) are ugly and if Jesus loves them why doesn’t He give them chins.

I did find the one where she said Christian Mingle (not that I have any illusions about that particular business) is like other dating sites only for people without genitals.

As a further slap in God’s face, she recently “married” two homesexual men.

While I like much of her humor, she was beyond cruel at times when she joked about those poor girls in Cleveland who were held captive for years. She also made a joke about Lohan’s miscarriage.


28 posted on 09/05/2014 5:48:10 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

I am aging beautifully : )
Ban botox!! I do not want to look at another dead face on a living person!


29 posted on 09/05/2014 6:45:55 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: minnesota_bound

Sorry, I didn’t mean you. I meant hers is gonna get worse.


30 posted on 09/05/2014 6:52:58 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are.)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

She will look the same a thousand years from now. Joan herself said to donate her body to tupperware.
I go to the DailyMail website in the UK and they have photo after photo on the rightside of celebs with that dead botox look and they are still young with nary a wrinkle yet they inject this plastic filler and botox in their face.


31 posted on 09/05/2014 7:48:41 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Pining_4_TX

That’s pretty tepid fare—AKA jokes.


32 posted on 09/06/2014 3:17:15 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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