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FACING RADICAL ISLAM: What’s the Problem?
Clash Daily ^
| September 1, 2014
| R.G. Yoho
Posted on 09/01/2014 12:22:58 PM PDT by Clintons-B-Gone
When is the world finally going to realize that Radical Islam isnt a religion of peace?
It isnt harmless. It isnt peaceful. It isnt friendly. And it will never coexist with freedom and individual liberty.
Radical Islam is a religion of depraved male debauchery, human slavery, and ultimately, death.
In fact, it isnt even a religion at all.
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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: isis; islam; jihad; obama; terrorism
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To: Travis McGee
Looking at your photograph I think of the eternal question: why don’t muzzie men ever take baths?
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posted on
09/01/2014 12:51:24 PM PDT
by
miss marmelstein
(Richard III: Loyalty Binds Me)
To: Clintons-B-Gone
>When is the world finally going to realize that Radical Islam isnt a religion of peace?<
.
When is the world finally going to realize that there is no difference between Radical Islam and ‘peaceful’ Islam?
They all get their marching orders from the same Koran.
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posted on
09/01/2014 12:51:25 PM PDT
by
353FMG
To: Clintons-B-Gone
Radical Islam is a religion of depraved male debauchery, human slavery, and ultimately, death. In fact, it isnt even a religion at all. A small correction in your post. The problem is not radical Islam but the fact that Islam as prescribed from the Koran is radical. In fact moderate Muslims are apostates and as ISIS has shown us in horrid executions of men, women, and children, moderate Muslims are slaughtered, raped, butchered and worse.
The Koran if followed as written is radical and without mercy. A moderate Muslim is an apostate and in the eyes of ISIS even worse than Christians and Jews.
ISIS is an evil entity that will win or it will die. If they win we die. If we win they die.
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posted on
09/01/2014 12:56:41 PM PDT
by
cpdiii
(deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist. The constitution is worth dying for!)
To: miss marmelstein
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posted on
09/01/2014 12:56:51 PM PDT
by
DuncanWaring
(The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
To: cpdiii
If we win they die. If they don't die we haven't won.
They must be destroyed to the last man. And woman.
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posted on
09/01/2014 12:58:16 PM PDT
by
DuncanWaring
(The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
To: Travis McGee
All the progresso-lib-leftists who are remaining silent on the topic of radical islamists and their need to turn the world back to 800 A.D. and their form of law and warfare, are just the ones who hate us for wanting to return to America of the 1950s.
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posted on
09/01/2014 1:02:59 PM PDT
by
Slyfox
(Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
To: Clintons-B-Gone
IMHO: The Left's problem is that calling out Islam as "evil", is by default, an acknowledgment that Christianity -- or rather, the Judeo-Christian tradition -- is "good." Whether Islam is regarded as a religion or not, it most certainly is a culture that dominates a large part of the world. As we know, it's anathema to the Left to admit one culture is superior to another, even when it is as as gutter-trash as Islam. Any concession they'll make otherwise is explained as the fault of Western (particularly American) capitalists, imperialists, etc. In this way, the Left sees Islam as an ally in dismantling the Judeo-Christian traditions they abhor, as well as a "cause" that they (by way of political power, of course) can improve.
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posted on
09/01/2014 1:03:28 PM PDT
by
workerbee
(The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
To: workerbee
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posted on
09/01/2014 1:04:38 PM PDT
by
Fungi
To: miss marmelstein
Because camels and goats don’t care how they smell when they’re gettin’ busy.
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posted on
09/01/2014 1:05:15 PM PDT
by
workerbee
(The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
To: Clintons-B-Gone
"Radical Islam is a threat to all of us. "What woke up these guys up with delusions of grandeur? They have no world class military anything. Big powerhouse nations have atomic bomb, they don't. They use abandoned and captured US military equipment. They rely on improvised bombs, stolen planes and suicide to make an impact. What is our fear?
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posted on
09/01/2014 1:05:36 PM PDT
by
ex-snook
(God forgives because God is Love)
To: Slyfox
And they will be the first on their knees holding up one finger, and repeating the Shahada conversion prayer.
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posted on
09/01/2014 1:08:15 PM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
To: workerbee
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posted on
09/01/2014 1:08:36 PM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
To: workerbee
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posted on
09/01/2014 1:17:43 PM PDT
by
miss marmelstein
(Richard III: Loyalty Binds Me)
To: ex-snook
They have the will to do it. That’s all.
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posted on
09/01/2014 1:18:32 PM PDT
by
miss marmelstein
(Richard III: Loyalty Binds Me)
To: bert
you are incorrect. Your spite is blinding you
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You sir explain yourself. Bold assertions without justification are meaningless on this site. We are waiting for specifics. And skip the personal criticisms.
To: miss marmelstein
"They have the will to do it. Thats all."You may be right. If a leader were to suggest that to win we would have to have a draft for WWII overwhelming force to conquer, disarm and occupy or raise taxes to pay for our efforts - the country would go apoplectic yelling Right Wing or Left Wing.
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posted on
09/01/2014 1:27:43 PM PDT
by
ex-snook
(God forgives because God is Love)
To: bert
No, Bert, you are wrong! You have been sorely misguided and are desperately in need of a non-Politically Correct education in respect of the horrors of the evil death cult that is Islam!
Your attitude, and others who believe as you do, DIRECTLY contributed and continues to contribute to the world-wide chaos and the 270 million deaths that Islam has visited upon the world since 622 AD!
Islam is an evil death cult, and its followers are Hell bent on destroying every other civilization on earth!
Wise up, man!
They will kill us all if we adopt your attitude.
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posted on
09/01/2014 1:29:39 PM PDT
by
Taxman
(I am mad as Hell and I am not going to take it any more!)
To: Clintons-B-Gone
The difference between Radical Islam and Moderate Islam is the bomb vest either isn't finished or more often the Moderate hasn't paid enough money to the kid to blow himself and others up - yet!
The Koran both read is the same and the author (Mohammad,) is the same.
Many people will state, "Why don't Moderate Muslims speak out against the violence?" as if the Moderate Muslim disagrees with the radicals. They don't, so quit wondering.
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posted on
09/01/2014 1:33:39 PM PDT
by
zerosix
(Native Sunflower)
To: Clintons-B-Gone
In fact, it isnt even a religion at all.Which is what I've said almost forever, yet people respond to me as if I was the crazy one.
Islam is a socio-political system MASQUERADING as a religion.
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posted on
09/01/2014 1:40:27 PM PDT
by
JimRed
(Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
To: Clintons-B-Gone
Brigitte Gabriel described the problem very well in her response to Saba Ahmed at the Heritage Foundation's June 16, 2014, event, "
Benghazi: The Difference It Makes Is Accountability!"
Basically if I were to have titled it, I would call it
"Sharia" Is Not The "SAME FAITH", and "THE PEACEFUL MAJORITY WERE IRRELEVANT !"
But what's more defining is what several news source stories cut out in their version of the even.
Here are links to the reports that I'm referring to.
These slightly different versions stirred my curiosity to dig into the full story myself.
Below is MY TRANSCRIPT of the 9 minutes and 17 seconds of video of the event. (
I'm a retired air traffic controller/supervisor and I have done official transcripts before.)
Full Context: Benghazi Accountability Coalition Event
Full Context: Benghazi Accountability Coalition Event ( 9:17 ) Published on Jun 17, 2014 by The Heritage Foundation
The exchange between questioner Saba Ahmed and a panel at a June 16, 2014, event, "Benghazi: The Difference It Makes Is Accountability!"
the Benghazi Accountability Coalition hosted by the Heritage Foundation. On the panel Chris Plante, Clara Lopez, Brigitte Gabriel, and Frank Graffney
SABA AHMED: As-salamu alaykum. Peace to you all.
My name is Saba Ahmed.
I'm a Law Student at American University.
I am here to ask you a simple question.
I know that we portray Islam and all Muslims as bad, but there is 1.8 billion Muslims followers of Islam.
We have 8 million plus Muslim Americans in this country, and I don't see them represented here.
But my question ishow can we fight an ideological war with weapons?
How can we ever end this war?
The jihadist ideology that you talk about - it's an ideology.
How can you ever win this thing if you don't address it ideologically?
CHRIS PLANTE: Frank.
FRANK GAFFNEY: Well, um, I'm glad to see you're representing Muslims in this company.
Uh, I don't want to speak for anybody else, but I think I can say safely that there isn't anybody on this panel that thinks that all Muslims are the problem.
I certainly don't.
What we have been trying to help people to understand is the ideology, to use your tern, the doctrine, if you will, uh the program, agenda.
I don't know what best way to describe what "Sharia" is.
But that's the default line, I think, between Muslims who are
decidedly the problem,because they believe it is "Allah's will", God's will, to impose that will on everybody else, Muslim and non-Muslim, alike, on one hand.
And on the other hand, you have lots of Muslims who don't follow that program.They don't even know what it's about,
don't speak Arabic,
aren't imbued with the traditions of the faith as out of Saudi Arabia, for example.
And they are NOT necessarily the problem, at least not yet.
But what makes these policy things so important it seems to me, and why it is imperative that we understand it ...
It's not just that we don't know that we're fightingan "ideological war" against people who ARE ABSOLUTELY CONVINCED OF THE SUPREMACY OF THEIR IDEOLOGY
but because as a practical matter, we're engaged in a situation that is becoming vastly worse in part because we keep embracing people who are imbued with that ideology.
This is why I come back to this idea of legitimating and engaging and funding and arming the Muslim Brotherhood.
These are exponents of "Sharia".
It is part of their agenda, very explicitly, to impose it, as I say, on everyone else.
So I thank you for the question and I think we absolutely do need to deal with it as an ideologically war, at least in part or at least understand the the ideology that is driving THE VIOLENT JIHAD ON THE ONE HAND,
AND EVERY BIT AS IMPORTANTLY WHAT THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD CALLS THE "CIVILIZATION JIHAD" ON THE OTHER.
Many in the government, if they're thinking about this at all, are focused on the sort of dangling, shiny object, dangerous as it is, of "VIOLENT JIHAD".
But they're missing ENTIRELY, that other piece that I talked about in connection with Huma Abedin and others,
which is
the SUBVERSION, the not-so-much non-violent form of Jihad, as the PRE-VIOLENT FORM OF JIHAD, with which they hope ultimately to take us down just as surely as the others who embrace VIOLENT JIHAD seem to.
But at the end of the day, it is something that brings them together, whether it is ISSI,
whether it is the Taliban,
whether it's Al Qaida,
whether it's the Muslim Brotherhood,
whether it's dozens of others,
IS "Sharia" .
And we DO have to get THAT straight.
BRIGITTE GABRIEL: Great ,,,
Crowd: ( applause) [Video time ( 4:06 )]
BRIGITTE GABRIEL: Great question.
I am so glad you're here.
And I am so glad you brought that up, because this
, because it gives us an opportunity to answer.
What I find so amazing is, since the beginning of this panel, which we are here about Benghazi attack against our people; not one person mentioned Muslims,
we are here against Islam,
or we're launching war against Muslims.
We are here TO DISCUSSHOW 4 AMERICANS DIED,
and WHAT OUR GOVERNMENT IS DOING.
We are NOT here to bash Muslims.
YOU were the one who brought up the issue about 'most Muslims', NOT US.
And since you brought it up, allow me to elaborate with my answer.
There are 1.2 BILLION Muslims in the world today.
OF COURSE NOT ALL of them are radicals.
The majority of them are peaceful people.
The radicals are estimated to be between 15 to 25% according to ALL intelligence services around the world.
That leaves 75% of them, ma
a peaceful people.
But when you look at 15 to 25% of the world's Muslim population,you're looking at 180 million to 300 million people DEDICATED TO THE DESTRUCTION OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION.
That is as big of the United States.
So why should we worry about the radical, 15 to 25%?BECAUSE IT IS THE RADICALS THAT KILL.
BECAUSE IT IS THE RADICALS THAT BEHEAD AND MASSACRE.
When you look throughout history, when you look at all the lessons of history,most Germans were peaceful.
Yet the Nazis drove the agenda.
And as a result, 60 million people died, almost ah,
14 million in concentration camps. 6 million were Jews.
The peaceful majority were IRRELEVANT.
When you look at Russia, most Russians were peaceful as well.
Yet the Russians were able to kill 20 million people.
The peaceful majority were irrelevant.
When you look at China for example, most Chinese were peaceful as well.
Yet the Chinese were able to kill 70 million people.
The peaceful majority were IRRELEVANT.
When you look at Japan prior to World War II, most Japanese were peaceful as well.
Yet, Japan was able to butcher its way across Southeast Asia, killing 12 million people, mostly killed with bayonets and shovels.
The peaceful majority were IRRELEVANT.
On September 11th in the United States, we had 2.3 MILLION Arab Muslims living in the United States.
It took 19 hijackers,19 radicals,to bring America down to its knees,
destroy the World Trade Center,
attack the Pentagon, and
and kill almost 3000 Americans that day.
THE PEACEFUL MAJORITY WERE IRRELEVANT !
SO FOR ALL OUR POWERS OF REASON, and US TALKING ABOUT moderate and peaceful Muslims, I'm glad you're here.
But WHERE ARE THE OTHERS SPEAKING OUT?
AND SINCE YOU ARE THE ONLY MUSLIM REPRESENTATIVE
Crowd: ( overwhelming applause)
BRIGITTE GABRIE: ( speaking to the large crowd and waving her hands down to lower the noise) Save your applause until the end.
Crowd: ( overwhelming applause)
BRIGITTE GABRIEL: Thank you.
Crowd: ( overwhelming applause)
BRIGITTE GABRIEL: (Laughing) Thank you.
AND SINCE YOU ARE THE ONLY MUSLIM REPRESENTATIVE IN HERE, YOU TOOK THE LIME LIGHT INSTEAD OF SPEAKING ABOUT And I assume
[Ahmed responded yes.]
BRIGITTE GABRIEL: You're an American Citizen?
[Ahmed responded yes.]
BRIGITTE GABRIEL: So, as an American citizen, you sat in this room, and INSTEAD of standing up as saying a question,
or asking something about our 4 Americans that died and what our government is doing to correct the problem,
YOU STOOD THERE TO MAKE A POINT ABOUT PEACEFUL, MODERATE MUSLIMS.
I wish you brought 10 with you TO QUESTION THEM ABOUT WHAT, HOW WE CAN HELP OUT GOVERNMENT RESPONSIBLE It is timewe take political correctness and THROW IT IN THE GARBAGE CAN WHERE IT BELONGS,
and STOP CALLING IT "SAME FAITH" .
[Video time ( 8:00 )]
Crowd: ( Shouts of "Yeah" and overwhelming applause)
CHRIS PLANTE: And they'll be refreshments afterwards.
Crowd: ( Laughter and overwhelming applause)
CHRIS PLANTE: (to Clare Lopez) Ah, did you want to respond to the ah
?
CLARE LOPEZ: (Shaking her head no) I don't want to.
CHRIS PLANTE: You think, ah (laughing) you think that
another time .
CLARE LOPEZ: (Shaking her head no) I can't follow that.
CHRIS PLANTE: ( Laughing) ( Pointing to Saba Ahmed) You had a follow-up that you'd ah
I'd uh
Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead.
[Video time ( 8:31 )] (Video of part of the large crowd and Saba Ahmed asking question)
SABA AHMED:
A comment.
Thank you for your responses.
And I do really hope that other Muslims will start showing up at these conservative forums.
But, you know, as a peaceful
ah, American Muslim I would like to think that I'm not that irrelevant.
I would like, I'm just as much an American and Im very deeply saddened about the lives that were lost in Libya.
And I hope that we will find justice for them and their families and
But I don't think that this war can ever be won BY JUST THE MILITARY.
You have to address the war
You have to bring the Muslims to the table TO ADDRESS THIS.
CHRIS PLANTE: I think that
I think everyone agrees that it can't be won JUST by the military, and I that everyone has said that.
You,
Can you tell me WHO the head of the uh, Muslim Peace Movement IS?
SABA AHMED: Huh, I guess that's me right now, sir. (she's smiling)
Thank you.
CHRIS PLANTE: Uh, yeah, well uh
(smiling)
Thank you.
(Crowd clapping)
END of video.
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posted on
09/01/2014 1:44:25 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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