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Presidential Proclamation -- National Preparedness Month, 2014 (original document)
WhiteHouse.gov ^ | August 29, 2014 | President Zero Hussein Obama

Posted on 08/31/2014 11:37:30 AM PDT by Perseverando

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To: fifedom
And fuel and maintenance. Don't forget those. They were killers.

/johnny

21 posted on 09/01/2014 9:45:08 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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This little burg of over 50K has 20 each LE. That’s pretty poor odds on manning, if you are counting.


Are you counting county Sheriff department, state police, national guard?

How many does it take to go door to door and clean out the ‘hoarders’? Most people do not prep and the guvmint can also rely on informants perhaps from well meaning gestures by preppers.

You can say ‘nope’ all you want but does not make it so.


22 posted on 09/03/2014 5:39:49 PM PDT by fifedom
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To: fifedom
"In 2008, state and local law enforcement agencies employed more than 1.1 million persons on a full-time basis, including about 765,000 sworn personnel (defined as those with general arrest powers)." -- US Department of Justice.

That's the last year accurate numbers were generally available. Add to that the 120,000 Federal law enforcement...

And you get roughly 1.3 million government goons under arms.

There were 115,226,802 households in the US in 2008, per the Census.

Divide the number of households by the number of LE, and remember that not all LE will be available. Some will be off-shift, sick, or home taking care of their family.

How long does it take to search a home, confiscate material that has no categorization, and move on to the next house?

When you are being shot at, and people are pissed.

I wouldn't eat any of the confiscated food, it might be poisoned.

/johnny

23 posted on 09/03/2014 6:02:12 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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I’ll take your word for your numbers. Add national guard:
According to wiki:
“The Air National Guard has more than 106,000 personnel, and the Army National Guard (ARNG) around 325,000 personnel (as of February 2006).”

There are enough numbers to cause serious problems.

If you are a prepper, then be my guest and widely advertise what you have.


24 posted on 09/03/2014 6:17:36 PM PDT by fifedom
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To: fifedom
Maybe you don't know, because you never served. I served, as both active and reserve... Reserve and NG are almost always 1/3 deployed overseas, 1/3 training for that deployment, or 1/3 resting from the deployment they just got back from.

So, in CONUS, I would bet less than 200K personnel under arms.

Call all government goons under arms 2 million to make your point.

And 115 million households to search.

Government goons run in packs, like feral humans or dogs do. They always run in groups. Especially when things are dangerous.

And remember... of those 2 million government guys under arms, only 1/3rd can be operative if the rest are to get down-time.

How long does it take to toss a household for contraband?

If they know you are coming, and they are armed and pissed off?

Best case, they might lock down a few liberal, unarmed cities. Best case.

But the liberal unarmed cities have gang-bangers that hate LE and would harass them just to irritate them.

It's a logistical mess for any commander that was told to go house-to-house and collect food.

Where do the vehicles and fuel come from? What happens when people won't cooperate?

/johnny

25 posted on 09/03/2014 6:42:04 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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Maybe you don’t know, because you never served.


Actually I did serve 6 years in the Army Reserve.

OK, let’s take your numbers:
~120 million households
~ 2 million goons
So each goon would have to search 60 houses.

Say they go in packs of 3-4 that is ~200 houses to search per pack of goons.

If they search 5 houses a day that’s ~40 days to search every house in the US.

I am glad we had this conversation. I think getting searched in Obama’s America is a distinct possibility. Keeping two stashes with one sacrificial one to be confiscated makes a lot of sense to me.


26 posted on 09/03/2014 7:03:08 PM PDT by fifedom
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Where do the vehicles and fuel come from? What happens when people won’t cooperate?


The same place that DHS is storing the billions of round of ammo that they bought over the last few years.


27 posted on 09/03/2014 7:05:13 PM PDT by fifedom
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They never go in packs of 3-4. Cops always go in packs of 20.

I don't know if you have noticed... It's only PBI that gets to clear houses with 3-4, and then, you have to have a significant reserve to support them if they get into trouble.

For goodness sake, don't poison the sacrificial stash. That would be unlawful. And mean. And maybe racist. ;)

I'm always willing to run the numbers again. It was a good, if informal table-top.

/johnny

28 posted on 09/03/2014 7:08:51 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: fifedom
With civilians at the depot. Civilians with familities they are searching in the real world.

Support dries up quick when it gets to that.

Cops don't do maintenance, they pay civilian contractors to do that.

/johnny

29 posted on 09/03/2014 7:16:48 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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