VA says no proof delays in care caused vets to die

Townhall ^ | 8/25/14 | ap

[SoFloFreeper]

See there? No proof. Obama is in the clear.

[SkyPilot]

We have Eric Holder “investigating” the IRS crimes, what's wrong with the VA “investigating” itself?

[SkyPilot]

About as accurate as the government unemployment and inflation figures.

Amen. Just as the paid liars refuse to count food and energy into the inflation figures, the VA will refuse to count life and limbs into their data.

[Jack Hammer]

Gee, they conducted an investigation and cleared... themselves.

Shocker.

[jmaroneps37]

“Attention comrades, attention comrades your beloved Veterans Administration has investigated and you’ll all be happy to hear that no veterans have died because of delays in appointments. There will be an extra fruit cup after lunch today to celebrate this great victory for workers!”

[jmaroneps37]

“Attention comrades, attention comrades your beloved Veterans Administration has investigated and you’ll all be happy to hear that no veterans have died because of delays in appointments. There will be an extra fruit cup after lunch today to celebrate this great victory for workers!”

[Graewoulf]

BTTT!

[ontap]

If you're dying of some cancers the treatment has to start early to be successful....have some bureaucrat screwing around with appointments to cover his sorry ass means some will die waiting!!

[newnhdad]

After hours of investigating, they absolve themselves of any of the wrongdoing others accused them of. Nothing to see here, move along..

[ReaganÜberAlles]

So is dad still dead.?

You admit you have no proof

[M Kehoe]

What were the criteria/metrics the IG used to reach this conclusion?

I smell a rat attempting cya.

5.56mm

[Lazamataz]

The Department of Veterans Affairs says investigators have found no proof that delays in care caused any deaths at a VA hospital in Phoenix,

WOW! That's amazing, how all these investigations seem to clear up things for the Obama government! You have the VA investigating itself, and POOF, there's nothing there. Then you have the IRS investigating itself, and POOF, there's nothing there. You have the State Department investigating itself, and POOF, there's nothing there.

Well. If I am ever accused of a crime, I will investigate MYSELF, thank you very much.

[hal ogen]

The VA is run by criminals. Have any of these degenerate bum execs returned their ill-gotten “bonuses”? Have any of them been fired...or jailed?

[KarlInOhio]

It is all statistics. Some would have likely died with prompt treatment. Some would have likely survived with lousy treatment. But if you find that it is 95% likely that at least 20 patients died because of slow treatment, there is still a small chance that all 20 would have died anyway, thus the 95% likelihood does not "prove" that any died because of poor treatment.

Even with prompt treatment of diseases like cancer, some patients will die anyway, thus the death of any individual cancer patient cannot be proved to be caused by late treatment. It is just may be 99% likely rather than 100% proven.

[hal ogen]

Are you a VA supervisor? Did you enjoy your “Murder-a-Vet-By-Neglect” bonus?

[Lazamataz]

Who died? Name them.

Naming them is not enough proof. He must show us social security numbers, bank accounts, credit cards.... he must produce video of the actual neglect. It must show the actual neglect, and show directly that it caused the death. Further, he must actually bring us the corpses.

And even then, we won't believe him, because we are staunch Democrats and liberals, and facts do not sway us. We only need to ask for impossible information that violates HIPAA regulations, and when they cannot be produced, we win our argument!

[ReaganÜberAlles]

Youre the troll lowlife

[2ndDivisionVet]

"So is dad still dead.? You admit you have no proof"

You're looking to get banned, are you?

[ontap]

My doctor at the VA says there is much more to come with the VA!! She says the bonuses just go to the supervisors and that most doctors are embarrassed with what has been going on!!

[ontap]

He’s not a newbie but he is really over the top.....very surprising a freeper would be defending these government whores!!!