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1 posted on 08/23/2014 7:08:19 AM PDT by Kaslin
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The left has always been an alliance of convenience between mostly good-hearted folks who are absolutely clueless about economics and charlatans who know better and cynically play the good-hearted economic-naifs to gain power. (Well, with a few cynical economically naive charlatans thrown into the mix.)


2 posted on 08/23/2014 7:12:19 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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Seeing what they've done in the Eurozone I think the working poor are going to see in the future the cost of everything go up 300% here in the USA.
Rather than say they are taxing the living hell out of you, Europe in places like Italy, Greece, France and so on just take the tax out by raising the price of everything 300%. So where do you think the extra 200% goes?

$11 plus gas. Shoes that should cost $60 going for $180. A grilled cheese worth $4 going for $12 and so on.

The minimum wage is one thing, but based on the liberals copying the failures of socialist Europe, look for 300% increased prices.

3 posted on 08/23/2014 7:15:52 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Repeal the minimum wage. Let the employer and employee decide and how they will be paid(wage, tip) and how much they will be paid.

Its called freedom. Government control freaks butt out.


5 posted on 08/23/2014 7:21:56 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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Interestingly, I was looking up human trafficking this morning. I found an article in Rolling Stone magazine about it. Strangely, the Rolling Stone article said almost exactly the same things as this article, except that eliminating tips and instituting "living wages" are supposed to stop trafficking, somehow.

Does it never occur to leftists that their attempts to make low skill jobs pay enough to support middle class families both contribute to unemployment and to trafficking, by making it cost-prohibitive to hire people legally at low wages?

5 Things You Didn't Know About Human Trafficking

6 posted on 08/23/2014 7:28:06 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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I wouldn't object to seeing tipping go. It is a custom which subsidizes niggardly wages paid by certain favored employers.

I could never figure out what makes the labor of your counter help at the local McDonald's worth more than that of your wait staff at the local Denny's. It used to be that 10% was considered an average tip. Now they tell you it should be 15%. And what's the connection to the price of your meal? The jerk who orders the $4 special and the coffee with unlimited refills can take up a booth for four hours and leave more mess to clean-up than the family of 4 who spends $30 and is seated and gone in 40 minutes.

In Japan (and most of Asia) tipping is not the custom and the level of service is far better than anything here.

7 posted on 08/23/2014 7:28:51 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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Economics teaches that supply and demand are often in equilibrium. Therefore, raising the price of something means that less of it is demanded. In the case of labor, it means fewer jobs.

But, in modern day socialist America, prices aren’t always what they seem. There’s a floor on wages different from the minimum wage—it’s the equivalent welfare wage. I’ve seen studies that say that in some states, the total of welfare benefits comes close to $15 /hour. It’s also true that if you are on welfare, as soon as you start to work, you face an extraordinarily high marginal tax, because you lose cash benefits, and in-kind benefits like Medicare and food stamps.

So, the practical minimum wage to get someone who is on welfare to choose work instead (neglecting reasons of pride and self responsibility) is quite high, and higher than the stated minimum wage.

My solution: Forget about the minimum wage. It’s a training wage for kids and people who wish to enter the workforce. It’s not an alternative to welfare.

Oh, yeah, the second part of my solution is to cut welfare substantially. Eliminate EBT cards. Make it a bit unpleasant, like having to eat government cheese and spam. There’s sustenance, but not much pleasure. I’m sick of seeing people in line in at the supermarket pay for carts filled with luxury foods with their EBT cards. Shouldn’t happen.

/rant off


10 posted on 08/23/2014 8:01:18 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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As one who knows lots of liberals/Dems/progressives, it is my long-time observation that as a group, they are remarkably stingy and very, very poor tippers.

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19 posted on 08/23/2014 10:37:24 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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