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St. Louis Cop: We Don't Want to Shoot
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | August 22, 2014 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 08/22/2014 6:35:30 PM PDT by Kaslin

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RUSH: Here's Mike in St. Louis. Great to have you, sir, on the EIB Network. Hello.

CALLER: Hey, Rush, it's an honor to be on your show.

RUSH: Thank you, sir.

CALLER: I'm a police officer in the St. Louis area, and I'm pretty fed up with the way that police officers are being portrayed right now in the media. I've got two points real quick, and I want to make 'em on your show because in a week and a half of media coverage, I haven't heard any of these points being made. The first is in reference to the militarization of the police departments. I don't know if you remember in 1997 when two bank robbers with bulletproof vests and assault rifles held the entire LAPD at bay for two or three hours. Are you familiar with that?

RUSH: Not only, Mike, do I recall it, we just mentioned that last week. I don't say that to disagree with you. I say that to confirm what you're saying. The reason we have militarized police officers is because in LA and a couple of other places the bad guys had AK 47s, and everybody was talking about how ill-equipped the cops were with their peashooter handguns to deal with this stuff, and that's why they were ramped up.

CALLER: That's exactly why I called. Our police academy, they actually show that video, and the LA police department had to go to local gun stores to buy rifles because they didn't have any. They also had to use armored bank trucks because they didn't have any armored vehicles to deal with these people.

RUSH: Exactly right.

CALLER: My second point, real quick, is shooting an unarmed person. If you do a quick Google search you'll find that in the last 10 years, 53 police officers have been killed with their own weapons. That means that some unarmed suspects took away a police officer's gun and killed that officer with their own gun.

RUSH: Right.

CALLER: You know, there are situations when we have to shoot unarmed people. I understand that we have Tasers and we have batons and we have pepper spray. Those are tools, and they are also tools that can be used against us. And it only takes one good punch from a suspect before we're knocked out, laying on the ground unconscious, and they have access to all of those tools.

So, until the media or any of these people that say that we can't shoot unarmed suspects rides along with us or maybe does our job for a month or two and realizes any time we knock on a door, there could be an assault rifle on the other side of that door, until they ride along us, I'm a little tired of hearing about how we should do our job.

RUSH: Amen, bro. I couldn't agree with you more. You guys face an institutional prejudice and bias. Like this story in St. Louis is a myth. It's a myth that people like you shoot innocent black kids all the time. In St. Louis or wherever, it's a total myth that was created in St. Louis, and the reason they're able to create it is because they've done a good job of negative PR on the police in general.

CALLER: I agree.

RUSH: I think the police are just as aware of political correctness as anybody else is, and they're automatically on defense. Is it true that whenever, in any circumstance, whenever a cop uses his firearm, he's immediately put on suspension for awhile, while they investigate it, look at it, and make sure he's okay psychologically and all that?

CALLER: That is true. The first thing that happens is our firearm is taken away from us so it can be used for evidence if necessary, and then we're immediately placed on suspension. Some departments require a minimum of three psychological evaluations --

RUSH: Right.

CALLER: -- before you can go back to duty.

RUSH: Right. So it would seem to me, if I were a cop, the last thing I'd want to do is discharge my weapon. The last thing. Well, I wouldn't want a perp to get it, but given what's gonna happen to me after I discharge it, the last thing I would hope would happen in any circumstance is to have to fire that gun.

CALLER: Well, the biggest deterrent for shooting someone is the fact of shooting someone. I don't know anyone in my department that signs up to shoot someone. You know, shooting someone affects an officer's life for the rest of his life. If you look at the rate of police suicides, police officers killing themselves --

RUSH: So why do you want to become a cop?

CALLER: We want to become a cop because, A, it's a stable job, B, we want to help other people, and the camaraderie of working with other guys. You know, I'm former military so I kind of fit right in with the police department. There's a camaraderie that you have with your other officers, and when you see someone like the poor officer in Ferguson, you know, that was an unjustified shooting and it should be held accordingly, but you never hear any of the evidence on his behalf. All you hear is the evidence against him, and from what I understand there are several witnesses that did observe that subject assaulting the officer. You never hear about that.

RUSH: That's why the myth is beginning to fall apart. Well, Mike, look, I appreciate your call. I really do. I'm way beyond time here for this segment, and I've gotta go. But I do appreciate you taking the time to call here and share your thoughts with us.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
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1 posted on 08/22/2014 6:35:30 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

He makes a LOT of great points I totally agree with.

Since the Hollywood bank-robber machine-gun shoot-out how many SIMILAR bank robberies have there been, with a fully armored robber team with OVER TEN MACHINE GUNS AND PLENTY OF AMMO…?

Virtually zero.

And only 8% of the time that SWAT is now used is it for a barricaded suspect —they’re getting used for EXTRAVAGANTLY ROUTINE purposes, mostly for run-of-the-mill warrants.

He says a lot I agree with, the media was PRFOUNDLY unfair with Ferguson cops.

You can ALWAYS bank on the Grievance Elite and their stooly hosannah crowd to lambaste the cops but the really remarkable thing was the way MANY rank-and-file, middle-class WHITES voiced only very tepid support for the cops.

The reason is THOUSANDS of dead dogs, body-slammed grannies and WRONG ADDRESSES.

Too many cops have Seal-Team-6 fantasies and they’re on an almost PERMANENT SWAT footing where citizens are either current perps, or perps-to-be.

“AS LONG AS I GO HOME AT THE END OF MY SHIFT SAFELY”.

I don’t support the cops like I used to even if the Ferguson perp RICHLY deserved it.


2 posted on 08/22/2014 6:47:31 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

perfectly stated


3 posted on 08/22/2014 6:58:15 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: gaijin

and and don’t forget the baby that got blasted in the crib by the cops


4 posted on 08/22/2014 6:59:12 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Kaslin
The drive by media all went home when all the truth came out what really occurred in Ferguson.

The narrative was debunked when the facts were presented.

5 posted on 08/22/2014 7:01:23 PM PDT by dancusa (Molon Labe)
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To: Kaslin

“Danny, I’ve sent boys you age to the gas chamber. I, didn’t want to do it. But I felt I owed it to them.” Judge Smails.


6 posted on 08/22/2014 7:05:41 PM PDT by DManA
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To: yldstrk

The really remarkable thing about the Atlanta Baby Face Thermite Blast was what the city much later did:

“Ehh…ya, about the baby hospital bills —WE WILL NOT PAY FOR THOSE…”

They prolly weren’t actually HAPPY about the Raid From Freaking Hell, but somehow they decided to go ahead and just “own it”, apparently hoping that CONFIDENT treachery would somehow be better than…

RUN OF THE MILL treachery…?

Or something.

Well, OWN IT they do. Cuz that’s ALL they will own.

I’m thinking the city will owe MILLIONS. I’m glad.

I hope Babykins ends up owning the library, the school and all the city busses and the SWAT team goes nude with squirt guns.


7 posted on 08/22/2014 7:08:33 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

"WE WON'T PAY FOR HIS HOSPITAL BILLS, EITHER…"

signed,

Atlanta

8 posted on 08/22/2014 7:09:55 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

They’re lucky they didn’t get a bill for the bomb.


9 posted on 08/22/2014 7:09:57 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Kaslin

If were a police officer, working in the gang areas, I would want everything that the department had to offer for my assistance and protection. Street gangs / thugs now are pure evil. I wouldn’t feel comfy knocking on a door of a convicted killer. I see their side, I really do. A taser will not guarantee stopping every person. Some people can’t wrap their minds around police work.


10 posted on 08/22/2014 7:14:49 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: gaijin
And only 8% of the time that SWAT is now used is it for a barricaded suspect —they’re getting used for EXTRAVAGANTLY ROUTINE purposes, mostly for run-of-the-mill warrants

There is nothing run-of-the-mill about any type of police call, particularly warrant service, and most especially felony/high risk warrants.

Cops are prepared for the worst while hoping for the best.

11 posted on 08/22/2014 7:15:19 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: Kaslin

Ferguson what happened- if one hits a cop that person should expect deadly force returned.


12 posted on 08/22/2014 7:16:10 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: gaijin

totally agree


13 posted on 08/22/2014 7:17:11 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: RginTN

You should expect to have a judge and jury find you guilty before you are executed.


14 posted on 08/22/2014 7:25:20 PM PDT by DManA
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To: gaijin

I had a friend shot and killed serving a subpoena. Nothing is run of the mill.


15 posted on 08/22/2014 7:26:26 PM PDT by sheana
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To: gaijin

That was well-stated and I concur.

If the American people did not surrender their right of self defense to the police, - we would have little need for a militarized police force.

Plenty of cops have come out and blatantly stated that John Q Citizen should not be armed and cannot be trusted with his own defense, not to mention the mindset that gaijin noted.

This would be the reason so many of us no longer support the cops like we used to. Some of us have been victims of this militarized mindset and corruption that often goes along with police on a power-trip.


16 posted on 08/22/2014 7:30:25 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR

I have observed a sea change here. Rush is still living in the 1980’s.


17 posted on 08/22/2014 7:33:39 PM PDT by DManA
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To: sheana
Nothing is run of the mill.

NOTHING? Really?

That's a very popular lie that goes over easily on people who know NOTHING about police work, which is the vast majority of people.

In fact MOST police work is exactly that --routine.

Is it a fact that all hell CAN break loose at ANY time? Yes.

Does that PREVAIL? No.

What this popular slogan REALLY means is, "Don't get complacent on the job, because the unlikely might well actually occur."

It also means, "WE are cops, and YOU are not".

18 posted on 08/22/2014 7:37:54 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Kaslin

Unless it’s someone’s dog. That doesn’t count.


19 posted on 08/22/2014 7:48:34 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: DManA

Yes. And what is funny that Rush admits that he totally misjudged the American people and thought all the things the Left was pushing would NEVER be accepted by the majority.

He was dead wrong.

Same as he is on this issue.

Only a moral and religious people are capable of liberty. As society grows more corrupt and vicious it will have more Masters to impose order.


20 posted on 08/22/2014 8:02:58 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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