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To: Cold Heat
Once you seize a phone, you can get into the cloud storage and contents. But you really only need to have the phone for a minute to transfer enough data to clone it and have you way with the data later on.

You can? How? Tell me how you are going to unlock my iPhone to gain this magical access without bricking it and erasing all content for exceeding the number of failed attempts to use my random eight character or more pass code. Unless you can do that you can't do squat. . . Including clone it. Even Apple cannot bypass the encryption on the iPhone or decrypt it without the pass code, so merely unlocking it with a back door does no good to access data.

So, for your advice to buy a phone that IS secure, I bought the phone that has been proved to be so and is replacing the Blackberry in the Enterprise and Government usage. The iPhone.

You've paid zero attention to facts in favor of your fantasy.

If I didn't want the anyone to know anything about me if I were doing anything nefarious, I'd buy a untraceable Go phone that can't be associated with me in anyway. You can even get smart Gophones.

53 posted on 08/18/2014 9:35:40 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Yup....that’s what I settled on....got three of them.

As to getting into your I phone, all the authorities, (at the time and place) would need to do is ask apple or a Apple trained tech to open it. You really don’t get it do you...?

Your Apple is not any more secure than anything else...frankly, I found the Samsung to be better which is why I had one. I like the tamper proof auto reset..and anti theft. It was easy to use and user friendly. It came out in the first Galaxy, years ago.

But that does not mean that your data, sent or received cannot be read, or that the storage cloud servers are secure, or that your tele-provider has any intention of protecting anything if asked to provide it.

Your phone is not secure.


54 posted on 08/18/2014 9:48:12 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: Swordmaker

And before you give me a bunch of nonsense about needing a code to decrypt your data, again and again, Most Apple users keep their auto update feature activated so that their phone receives the latest of numerous updates.

You would be remiss as a Apple aficionado to turn it off and not be up to date.

All they would need to do from the provider side is send you a update with a back door and you would never know it.

Would you?

My carrier was Verizon. Do you think that I trust them? They are federally regulated nearly to the degree that the Chinese carriers are and they are obligated to do whatever the authorities tell them to do.

As I indicated some time ago in one of my posts, the Federal governments of both china and the US have the same fears about there citizenry. They want to know what they are doing, thinking, saying, if they can. If there was a public uprising, they both understand that disabling the internet pipes would also damage communications in the government.

So what is the answer to that little problem...Certainly not a internet off switch that is often rumored to exist. NO, NO....that would be bad...so how do they kill comms in the public domain and not affect the government.

I’ll let you figure that out.

When you figure that out, then ask yourself just what else they can do.

Frankly, I would much rather use a CB radio...

Hardly anyone has them anymore...

Bought a couple last month..


56 posted on 08/18/2014 10:04:05 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: Swordmaker

” Tell me how you are going to unlock my iPhone to gain this magical access without bricking it and erasing all content for exceeding the number of failed attempts to use my random eight character or more pass code”

I see phones getting seized all the time now, even for traffic violations when a arrest occurs. I wonder how many people actually lock their phones when bouncing around town, or do you let it time out and have to enter a long code while your walking, talking, driving...

Naww......I don’t think many do.

BTW, I might also advise you look into this. That is assuming you want to stay connected under all circumstances..

http://www.hamradiolicenseexam.com/

You don’t need a license to listen though...just to transmit.

A


57 posted on 08/18/2014 10:25:20 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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