Posted on 08/15/2014 9:11:50 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
MOSCOWUkrainian artillery destroyed a large part of a column of armored vehicles that had been seen entering Ukraine from Russia, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said Friday.
Ukraine, backed by Western capitals, has for weeks accused Russia of sending men and heavy weapons to pro-Russia rebels that hold several towns and cities in Ukraine's east.
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They have SU-25's, which are A-10 equivalents. A dozen of them have been shot down by Russian air defense units firing across the border. They need F-22's and F-35's to bomb without getting hit. The Israelis routinely knock out SAM batteries in Syria for locking on to their aircraft, but the Ukrainians aren't dealing with Syria.
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Per the UK Telegraph’s Oliphant, with the aid convoy, this was setup on the Russian side of the border at Izvarino/Donetsk, Russia.
Twitter says it is the support Radar for an S-300/400 battery.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvEhvB7IUAAcQmf.jpg:large
It just got a whole lot more interesting....
Trucks in a Russian humanitarian aid convoy pictured parked in a field outside the town of Kamensk-Shakhtinsky in Rostov region, some 30 km from the Russian-Ukrainian border, Russia, on August 15, 2014 (AFP Photo/Dmitry Serebryakov)
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A Russian military truck transporting a self-propelled howitzer 2S19 - MSTA-S (M1990 "Farm" NATO classification) is seen near the town of Kamensk-Shakhtinsky in the Rostov region, Russia, some 30 km from the Ukrainian border, on August 15, 2014 (AFP Photo/Sergei Venyavsky)
“We had a treaty with Ukraine”
Incorrect...
We had a “Memorandum of Understanding”, (Clinton’s Budapeest Memorandum from 1991) which is a just worthless piece of paper when a Democrat is in the White House.
There was never any defense treaty with Ukraine. That requires a vote of the Congress.
Related:
Lugansk militia claims to have captured a NatGuard mine-laying team along the road to Lugansk.
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Incursions from Russia have been going on a while now. Nothing new.
From the article:
This time it’s different: many foreign witnesses of Russian military crossing the border. No more fairy tales of captured or purchased in convenience store weapons.
A BBC reporter got to look inside some of those trucks and he found a large pile of nothing
Which means A-10s would be mincemeat against a "modern" opponent without air superiority to begin with.
Likely lucky we didn't have to rely on them against a Soviet T-72 horde coming through the Fulda Gap (unless, of course, we ruled the air before-hand).
That “aid” convoy was carrying soldiers. Reinforcements.
The “rebels” are Russians. I think we need to stop pretending they are Ukrainian rebels, heck Russia just delivered about 240 trucks of troops to them
So all the arms and weapons and ammo got off loaded enroute,, or sumthin’.
Better to be safe than blow’d up.
Sometimes the bully is a genuine bad-ass and resents the bloody nose you just gave him.
If it was a column of 20 or so APCs, it may not have been smart to shoot them.
Absolutely NOT TRUE.
Bill Clinton signed a tripartite agree with Ukraine and Russian assuring Ukraine's territorial integrity.
That doc was never submitted to the US Senate for ratification due to widespread DERISION by several senior senators and foreign policy guru's. Mostly Republicans.
It would have committed the USA to Existential War to protect Ukraine.
And that would have been downright stupid.
Oh, it was never submitted to the Russian Duma for ratification either.
In other words the Ukraine kept up their side of a bargain that nobody else took seriously.
Precisely correct.
The worse choice for the Ukrainians was to not hit the Russian military inside Ukraine.
The courage of these Ukrainians who fight for independence impresses me to no end.
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