1 posted on
08/11/2014 5:17:33 PM PDT by
jazusamo
To: jazusamo
2 posted on
08/11/2014 5:17:59 PM PDT by
dfwgator
To: jazusamo
Will Erdogan's Presidency End NATO As We Know It? Depends upon how dhimmified Øbøzø and the Euroweenies are. If they bow to Sultan Erdogan's wishes, he'll stay in for a while (until it comes time for the New Ottoman Empire to re-conquer Greece and the Balkans). Otherwise, they'll be out in a year.
3 posted on
08/11/2014 5:20:00 PM PDT by
markomalley
(Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
To: jazusamo
Americans will no doubt recall that Turkey's refusal to support the U.S. and NATO in the 2003 war against Iraq's Saddam Hussein. This American remembers that very, very well. BTT
To: jazusamo
"Given Erdogan's radical reorientation of Turkey's foreign policy and his creeping Islamist rule, the broader point is that his country no longer belongs in NATO. It won't be long before the U.S. and its allies come to the same conclusion."
I doubt that Obama will reach that conclusion. He would love an Islamist state in NATO and a dagger in the heart of what remains of a secular or Christian Europe. More death and destruction for the West he so despises.
7 posted on
08/11/2014 5:28:04 PM PDT by
Truth29
To: jazusamo
He fundamentally transformed Turkey.
8 posted on
08/11/2014 5:28:19 PM PDT by
Salvey
To: jazusamo
I thought Turkey is part of SEATO ...
9 posted on
08/11/2014 5:28:41 PM PDT by
SkyDancer
(If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed. If you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
To: jazusamo
," "Turkey is morphing into a Russian-style 'shell' democracy, in which managed plebiscites mask the essentially autocratic character of a system containing few or no checks and balances." Well said and accurate, but it doesn't go far enough."
sounds like "us"....
10 posted on
08/11/2014 5:31:50 PM PDT by
cherry
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12 posted on
08/11/2014 5:33:11 PM PDT by
jazusamo
(Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
To: jazusamo
Koxovo ended NATO as it was created to be.
Just what is, "as we know it", right now so the question posed can be answered?
13 posted on
08/11/2014 5:36:07 PM PDT by
Rashputin
(Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
To: jazusamo
"Turkey has for decades been a key ally to the U.S. and NATO in the Mideast, an anchor in the Cold War against the USSR and friendly toward Israel as the Jewish state was attacked repeatedly by its Arab neighbors."I think the answer lies in that paragraph. NATO was essentially set up in response to the Warsaw Pact, am I right?
The geopolitics of the ME and N. Africa changed dramatically with the fall of the USSR. And, Erdogan is no moderate; he is an Islamist. Erdogan has been trying to revamp the Turkish (secular) constitution and diminish the influence of the Turkish military, which traditionally is very secular.
15 posted on
08/11/2014 5:52:11 PM PDT by
odds
To: jazusamo
This guy is as dirty as the night is long.
17 posted on
08/11/2014 5:58:44 PM PDT by
NormsRevenge
(Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
To: jazusamo; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; ...
19 posted on
08/11/2014 6:04:11 PM PDT by
Jet Jaguar
(Resist in place.)
To: jazusamo
Now, as the Independent newspaper of Britain asserts, "Turkey is morphing into a Russian-style 'shell' democracy, in which managed plebiscites mask the essentially autocratic character of a system containing few or no checks and balances." That sounds familiar somehow.... Can't think why it would. /s
20 posted on
08/11/2014 6:06:25 PM PDT by
expat2
To: jazusamo
The NATO defense treaties and EU economic alliances are total contradictions to each other.
It’s well past time that the USA openly acknowledge this, and gracefully but firmly withdraw from NATO.
We could secure our own land borders in less than 30 days, with less than a quarter of the manpower we currently waste on securing our supposed allies borders.
22 posted on
08/11/2014 6:23:14 PM PDT by
sarasmom
(The Benghazi Brief – (Extortion 17 also partially explained))
To: jazusamo
NATO “as we know it” hasn’t existed for years.
24 posted on
08/11/2014 6:27:05 PM PDT by
Jim Noble
(When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
To: jazusamo
NATO has been dead for years. The Euros keep it around because it gives them an illusion of a capable military force, but the reality is it was the Americans who did the heavy lifting for everyone else. The Euros militaries are mostly hollow shells that have been gutted to feed their respective countries’ welfare states. Today's NATO is like an old boys’ social club.
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