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Case Definition for Ebola Virus Disease (EVD)
CDC ^ | August 7, 2014 | CDC

Posted on 08/11/2014 8:22:14 AM PDT by Raebie

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To: Smokin' Joe

Wow. I wish I lived close by you sir. My family continually pound away at my worst case scenarios with naaa, they won’t let that happen or won’t make that happen, that’s nuts you know. Glad to hear validation. I am astonished at the sheer numbers of ostriches out there. It would be hard enough for me to rule change for a WTSHTF but if I gotta drag know nothing mary sunshines with me I’m gonna need knockout drugs I guess, just kidding. LOL. Nice chatting with you while stuck here at work.


21 posted on 08/11/2014 12:19:46 PM PDT by Cats Pajamas
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To: Cats Pajamas; Kartographer
My family continually pound away at my worst case scenarios with naaa, they won’t let that happen or won’t make that happen, that’s nuts you know... I am astonished at the sheer numbers of ostriches out there.

That is 'normalcy bias'. Welcome aboard.

Watch for threads by Kartographer, who also has a free .pdf manual for download that could help you sort out some of the steps to take.

Also, check out http://shtfschool.com/. There is lots of information on the web, (and a lot of crap, too) but selco and ferfal have been there, as have others in their own situations.

22 posted on 08/11/2014 12:32:08 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Thank you Smokin Joe. Much appreciate.


23 posted on 08/11/2014 12:45:49 PM PDT by Cats Pajamas (Wonder if Rush will mention cankles and her rent a dogs first thing?)
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To: Cats Pajamas

You’re Welcome. It’s always nice to find out you are not only not alone, but there are millions more who think like you.


24 posted on 08/11/2014 12:58:33 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Any ping lists you recommend for me?


25 posted on 08/11/2014 12:59:19 PM PDT by Cats Pajamas (Wonder if Rush will mention cankles and her rent a dogs first thing?)
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To: Cats Pajamas; Kartographer; null and void
Check out this thread: Bugging out: Why I missed best time to bug out, there are links there to Kartographer's manual, and other resources.

Another good list is null and void's 'bring out your dead' list. Contact null and void to get on.

If you want, I'll add you to the infectious disease ping list, too.

26 posted on 08/11/2014 1:13:56 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe; Cats Pajamas

Its your choice you can prep or you can stand around on a bridge waiting for FEMA to bring you a bottle of water, a MRE, a warm blanket and a kiss for your boo-boo and maybe you can even get your picture as you stand there on the national news.

Look what happens every Black Friday and that’s just Christmas shopping, look what happened recently during the winter storms in the south and the northeast. Look at what is happening in the Ukraine, Venezuela, Syria, Greece, Argentina, Thailand and so on....The world is dry tinder just awaiting the right spark.

So listen to what the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it. NIV Proverbs 22:3

Selco covers this in this article many times people just can not except that a breakdown is occurring even as they watch it happening before their eyes. Why don’t they realize it? It’s caused by a condition called ‘Normalcy Bias’ a mental state people enter when facing a disaster.

It causes people to underestimate both the possibility of a disaster occurring and its possible effects. This often results in situations where people fail to adequately prepare for a disaster, and on a larger scale, the failure of governments to include the populace in its disaster preparations. The assumption that is made in the case of the normalcy bias is that since a disaster never has occurred then it never will occur. It also results in the inability of people to cope with a disaster once it occurs. People with a normalcy bias have difficulties reacting to something they have not experienced before. People also tend to interpret warnings in the most optimistic way possible, seizing on any ambiguities to infer a less serious situation.

A good article on ‘Normalcy Bias’ is on our own ChocChipCookies Blog The Survival Mom:

http://thesurvivalmom.com/2010/12/29/normalcy-bias/

You either prepare and stand on your own beholden to no one or you become dependent on others to provide your basic needs and become their ‘serf’. Me I don’t want to be beholden to anyone for providing what is needed for me and mine. I certainly don’t want to have to kiss some ‘gubberment’ third class bureaucratic to try and coax some help from them, I don’t want some ‘jack booted’ thug herding me in line and telling me where to stand, sit, eat or sleep. And last but not least I don’t want to be shut up in with a bunch of ‘zombies’ and have to worry about not only trying to get basic necessities but having to fight to keep what I manage to get.

Just getting started or an old hand you might find my Preparedness Manual helpful. You can download the manual at:

http://tomeaker.com/kart/Preparedness1j.pdf NOTE! THIS IS A FREE DOWNLOAD. I DO NOT MAKE ONE CENT OFF MY PREPAREDNESS MANUAL!

For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, cash (I myself have been putting up change for the past few years both for the metal content and the fact that using change places to make what purchases you can will move you down the the list of possible marks during shtf), tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

Again I like to recomend FReeper’s ChocoChipCookie Blog The Survival Mom (Please Blog Police let this one slide!) Where you can get lots of useful information like:

http://thesurvivalmom.com/2011/11/20/8-morale-boosters-for-any-worst-case-scenario/

http://thesurvivalmom.com/2010/02/02/survival-priorities-the-rule-of-three/

And More

Also there is Ferfal’s Blog a survivor of Argentina’s first collapse:

http://ferfal.blogspot.com/

And there is Selco’s Blog a Bosnian War survivor at:

http://shtfschool.com/

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger. Underestimation can be fatal.”


27 posted on 08/11/2014 1:43:24 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Smokin' Joe

Yes please. And thank you.


28 posted on 08/11/2014 2:07:50 PM PDT by Cats Pajamas (Wonder if Rush will mention cankles and her rent a dogs first thing?)
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To: Kartographer

Can’t say thanks enough. I’m getting busy.


29 posted on 08/11/2014 2:11:24 PM PDT by Cats Pajamas (Wonder if Rush will mention cankles and her rent a dogs first thing?)
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To: DCBryan1

Bleach will go fast too.


30 posted on 08/11/2014 2:18:38 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: Thud

Double check #284, please.
I believe that the (23) is a citation to a footnote, not an enumeration of the infectious period.

NO cheers, unfortunately.


31 posted on 08/11/2014 6:56:11 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Raebie; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; ...
Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

32 posted on 08/11/2014 8:13:07 PM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Hi Joe,

If I’m not already on it, please add me to the infectious disease ping list. (I’m on Nully’s BOYD list so I anticipate some dupe pings, but that’s better than missing something important or interesting.)

Thanks!

Dayglored


33 posted on 08/11/2014 11:07:44 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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