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President Who Pulled U.S. Troops Out of Iraq Says Idea He Pulled Troops Out of Iraq is "Bogus"
Townhall.com ^ | August 11, 2014 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 08/11/2014 7:46:21 AM PDT by Kaslin

In 2008 then Senator Obama campaigned on the promise of ending the war in Iraq and bringing combat troops home. In 2012, Obama touted that promise as complete (one of the only campaign promises he actually kept) and critics warned leaving Iraq without a residual U.S. force would result in a power vacuum and vulnerable state. Now as the country falls apart and the radical Islamic State army continues its march unchallenged in Iraq, Obama is claiming he wasn't the one who made the decision to pull U.S. combat troops out of the country and that claims to the contrary are "bogus and wrong."

Q Mr. President, do you have any second thoughts about pulling all ground troops out of Iraq? And does it give you pause as the U.S. -- is it doing the same thing in Afghanistan?

THE PRESIDENT: What I just find interesting is the degree to which this issue keeps on coming up, as if this was my decision. Under the previous administration, we had turned over the country to a sovereign, democratically elected Iraqi government. In order for us to maintain troops in Iraq, we needed the invitation of the Iraqi government and we needed assurances that our personnel would be immune from prosecution if, for example, they were protecting themselves and ended up getting in a firefight with Iraqis, that they wouldn’t be hauled before an Iraqi judicial system.

And the Iraqi government, based on its political considerations, in part because Iraqis were tired of a U.S. occupation, declined to provide us those assurances. And on that basis, we left. We had offered to leave additional troops. So when you hear people say, do you regret, Mr. President, not leaving more troops, that presupposes that I would have overridden this sovereign government that we had turned the keys back over to and said, you know what, you’re democratic, you’re sovereign, except if I decide that it’s good for you to keep 10,000 or 15,000 or 25,000 Marines in your country, you don’t have a choice -- which would have kind of run contrary to the entire argument we were making about turning over the country back to Iraqis, an argument not just made by me, but made by the previous administration.

So let’s just be clear: The reason that we did not have a follow-on force in Iraq was because the Iraqis were -- a majority of Iraqis did not want U.S. troops there, and politically they could not pass the kind of laws that would be required to protect our troops in Iraq.

Having said all that, if in fact the Iraqi government behaved the way it did over the last five, six years, where it failed to pass legislation that would reincorporate Sunnis and give them a sense of ownership; if it had targeted certain Sunni leaders and jailed them; if it had alienated some of the Sunni tribes that we had brought back in during the so-called Awakening that helped us turn the tide in 2006 -- if they had done all those things and we had had troops there, the country wouldn’t be holding together either. The only difference would be we’d have a bunch of troops on the ground that would be vulnerable. And however many troops we had, we would have to now be reinforcing, I’d have to be protecting them, and we’d have a much bigger job. And probably, we would end up having to go up again in terms of the number of grounds troops to make sure that those forces were not vulnerable.

So that entire analysis is bogus and is wrong. But it gets frequently peddled around here by folks who oftentimes are trying to defend previous policies that they themselves made.

Right, pulling all U.S. troops from Iraq had nothing to do with Obama's political aspirations and promises. Pretty incredible. On the issue of Obama claiming the Iraqi's and Maliki "not wanting U.S. troops there," and "wouldn't agree to a status of forces agreement," Obama hardly tried to get an agreement done in the first place. Obama took the easy way out on the agreement in order to fulfill a campaign promise and to satisfy his base.

Here's a flashback from 2010, when Obama took credit for the troop pull-out in Iraq.

Weird.. He took credit for that decision in an Oval Office address in 2010. pic.twitter.com/L5v5Z40G4F — S.M (@redsteeze) August 9, 2014

But, the idea that Obama had anything to do with the troop pullout is totally bogus right?
And another from 2011:

Obama today: "As if this was my decision." Obama in Oct 2011: pic.twitter.com/fnTQSKxt7N A promise he kept, and he's running from it? #OwnIt — Ron Fournier (@ron_fournier) August 9, 2014


You get the point.

President Obama wants to be responsible for what makes him look good in a short term moment and conveniently shoves off the bad and real decision making on everything and everyone else.


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KEYWORDS: barack0bama; bho44; bhogwot; denial; iraq; iraqwar; is; isis; isisiraq; kurdistan; obamaforeignpolicy; obamairaq; timetable; troopwithdrawal; yazidi; yazidis
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To: Kaslin

The lies flow effortlessly from the jug-eared pansy.


21 posted on 08/11/2014 7:57:41 AM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: atc23

Doesn’t matter. He knows America is scared because he’s black.
This gives him free reign.


22 posted on 08/11/2014 7:58:11 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Kaslin

A pathological liar lies.

Surprised?


23 posted on 08/11/2014 7:58:19 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Kaslin
Trouble in 'Camelot II' .....

Clinton critical of Obama foreign policy, says 'failure' to act in Syria created vacuum for jihad

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White House deputy national security adviser Ben Rhodes is now publicly responding to criticism from Hillary Clinton of Barack Obama's foreign policy. "On the broad thrust of our foreign policy, she was fully on board," Rhodes tells Politico.


24 posted on 08/11/2014 7:58:33 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: atc23

And the internet.


25 posted on 08/11/2014 7:59:29 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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26 posted on 08/11/2014 7:59:49 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Kaslin

Obama, on the campaign trail 2008...

“First, I’ll stop spending $9 billion a month in Iraq. I’m the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning. And as president I will end it.”

http://missilethreat.com/obama-pledges-cuts-in-missile-defense-space-and-nuclear-weapons-programs/


27 posted on 08/11/2014 8:00:03 AM PDT by ETL 2
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To: Kaslin

So was he lying then or is he lying now ?


28 posted on 08/11/2014 8:01:07 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: Kaslin

The U.S. has basically been hijacked by an enemy agent.


29 posted on 08/11/2014 8:01:28 AM PDT by ETL 2
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To: Kaslin

When President Obogus says, “If you like your freedom, you can keep it,” you’ll know it’s time to lock and load.


30 posted on 08/11/2014 8:02:01 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war,and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: DJ Taylor

Lots of Locking and Loading going on my neck of the woods. zer0 must have already spoken or at least those in my neck of the woods heard him.


31 posted on 08/11/2014 8:04:34 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Ping


32 posted on 08/11/2014 8:05:19 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin
So Obama is invoking some kind of ‘mandate’ as the reason he pulled the troops out?...we all know mandates are like kryptonite to Obama.
33 posted on 08/11/2014 8:05:51 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: ETL 2

Here’s the rest of that 2007 Obama campaign speech...

From the campaign trail, February 2008...

Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs

February 29, 2008 :: News
MissileThreat.com

A video has surfaced of Presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama talking on his plans for strategic issues such as nuclear weapons and missile defense.

The full text from the video, as released, reads as follows:

Thanks so much for the Caucus4Priorities, for the great work you’ve been doing. As president, I will end misguided defense policies and stand with Caucus4Priorities in fighting special interests in Washington.

First, I’ll stop spending $9 billion a month in Iraq. I’m the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning. And as president I will end it.[ie, “end it”, not win it -etl]

Second, I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending.

I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.

I will not weaponize space.

I will slow our development of future combat systems.

And I will institute an independent “Defense Priorities Board” to ensure that the Quadrennial Defense Review is not used to justify unnecessary spending.

Third, I will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons. To seek that goal, I will not develop new nuclear weapons; I will seek a global ban on the production of fissile material; and I will negotiate with Russia to take our ICBMs off hair-trigger alert [they are NOT on “hair-trigger alert” now -etl], and to achieve deep cuts in our nuclear arsenals.

You know where I stand. I’ve fought for open, ethical and accountable government my entire public life. I don’t switch positions or make promises that can’t be kept. I don’t posture on defense policy and I don’t take money from federal lobbyists for powerful defense contractors. As president, my sole priority for defense spending will be protecting the American people. Thanks so much.

Article: Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs:
http://missilethreat.com/archives/id.7086/detail.asp

“MissileThreat.com is a project of The Claremont Institute devoted to understanding and promoting the requirements for the strategic defense of the United States.”


34 posted on 08/11/2014 8:06:53 AM PDT by ETL 2
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To: FrankR

That is factual


35 posted on 08/11/2014 8:07:11 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: ETL 2

2008 of course. Not ‘07.


36 posted on 08/11/2014 8:07:53 AM PDT by ETL 2
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To: molson209
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37 posted on 08/11/2014 8:08:34 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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Obama is the epitome of “bogus and wrong.”


38 posted on 08/11/2014 8:09:37 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Kaslin

As I recall the Iraqi government wanted us to keep continue our military presence.


39 posted on 08/11/2014 8:10:37 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: oldbrowser

He was lying then, and is still lying now


40 posted on 08/11/2014 8:11:04 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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