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Ukraine Says Rebels Mistook Doomed Flight MH17 for Aeroflot Plane
The St. Petersburg Times ^ | August 9, 2014 (Issue # 1823) | Anna Dolgov

Posted on 08/10/2014 3:49:43 AM PDT by WhiskeyX

Ukraine has claimed that pro-Moscow separatists downed Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 after mistaking it for a Russian Aeroflot plane that they supposedly wanted to shoot down to provide Moscow with a pretext for invading Ukraine.

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Ukrainian Security Service head Valentyn Nalyvaichenko said Thursday that separatists had intended to hit an Aeroflot airliner that was headed from Moscow to Larnaca, Cyprus, and whose flight path passed close to that of the Malaysian jet.

Separatists were "ordered" to position a Buk anti-aircraft missile near the village of Pervomaisk in eastern Ukraine, but because the fighters were Russian, not local, they confused two settlements with the same name and less than 100 kilometers apart, Nalyvaichenko said in a statement by his agency.

The error was crucial in two regards, according to Nalyvaichenko: It brought the fighters under the flight path of MH17, instead of Aeroflot, and also meant that the missile was fired from rebel-controlled territory instead of the other village located in a region controlled by government troops, he said.

"From the location that had been intended originally, the Aeroflot passenger plane was to be hit so that it would have fallen on territory controlled by the armed forces," Nalyvaichenko was quoted as saying by Ukraine's Liga Novosti news agency.

"This terrorist attack was cynically planned as a pretext for the beginning of overt aggression over the massive loss of life of innocent Russians," he was quoted as saying.

The security service statement also said that the agency's investigation indicated that a Russian invasion had been planned to begin on July 18 — the day after the downing of the plane — but because of the error, the plan was supposedly revised.

(Excerpt) Read more at sptimes.ru ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: aeroflot; mh17; russia; ukraine

1 posted on 08/10/2014 3:49:44 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

And they couldn’t tell the difference between the two airliners simply on the basis of direction, SE vs. SW?


2 posted on 08/10/2014 4:35:12 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: WhiskeyX

no...... they downed the wrong air plane but not according to this script


3 posted on 08/10/2014 4:39:39 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: WhiskeyX

I doubt it.

Moscow had just shut down 12 air traffic corridors.

What were those 12 corridors???


4 posted on 08/10/2014 4:44:14 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: WhiskeyX

interesting...that Putin would sacrifice his own people to start a war...but then again, he is a man on a mission...


5 posted on 08/10/2014 5:13:52 AM PDT by BCW (ARMIS EXPOSCERE PACEM)
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To: WhiskeyX

Aeroflot flight AFL2074 was close to Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 when it was blown out of the sky on July 17, killing all 298 on board, he said.

‘It is incredibly cynical that the act of terrorism was planned against peaceful innocent Russian citizens who were on the way to their holidays with children,’ added Mr Nalyvaichenko.

He claimed this was a significant conclusion of Kiev’s probe into MH17’s downing.

Last night there was no independent confirmation of the claim by the SBU, formerly part of the Soviet KGB but now closely co-operating with Western intelligence agencies.

There are no fewer than seven villages called Pervomaiskoe in Donetsk region, and the rebels chose the wrong one – close to Torez – to site the mobile BUK system, according to the theory.

The SBU say that they have given evidence of their ‘wrong village’ allegations to the Dutch-led team leading the investigation into the crash.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2720899/MH17-rebels-meant-Aeroflot-plane-justify-invasion-Astonishing-claim-respected-head-Ukraine-intelligence-service.html#ixzz39zWwWalN

Such is the theory anyway —


6 posted on 08/10/2014 5:28:21 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip; Tailgunner Joe; Grzegorz 246; gandalftb; SunkenCiv; free_life; Ivan Mazepa; 1rudeboy

More info: http://20committee.com/2014/08/07/latest-ukrainian-intelligence-news/

and an update http://20committee.com/2014/08/08/update-ukrainian-intelligence-on-mh17-shootdown/

+ an article with maps supporting the allegation about the SU2074

http://informnapalm.org/671-kakoj-samolet-sobyralys-sbyt-terrorysty/ (in Russian)

Note the similarities with FSB http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_apartment_bombings in the 90s.


7 posted on 08/11/2014 2:23:40 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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Debunking the SBU-theory of AFL2074 - MH17 mix up.
http://ukraineatwar.blogspot.nl/2014/08/debunking-sbu-theory-of-afl2074-mh17.html

Here is it now https://planefinder.net/data/flight/SU2074

I wonder what the passenger will say when they will learn what could have happened July 17? Can a list of PAX be published?

8 posted on 08/11/2014 3:18:38 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: AdmSmith

Interesting stuff. Most in the west will never understand the Russian/Soviet mind.


9 posted on 08/11/2014 3:02:12 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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