Posted on 08/02/2014 12:16:55 PM PDT by chessplayer
Dr. Brantly arrive in the US today and is heading to Emory University in Atlanta. With NO police escort–
Wow!! These cars have No Idea the Ebola infected US doctor is in the ambulance next to them at stoplight. Not so safe pic.twitter.com/6fO99RMjZz
— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) August 2, 2014
Dr. Brantly WALKED Into Emory University Hospital in Atlanta—
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Influenza is easily spread from person to person because it is primarily a disease that affects the upper respiratory systems. People with influenza have runny noses and sneeze and cough and a lot, and people with the flu often start sneezing and spreading it before they get to the point of feeling really ill and are infectious and capable of spreading the virus days before the first symptoms appear. And some people with the flu will also do stupid things like insisting on going to work while sick and hence spreading their germs to others. While most people who get influenza don’t die from it (although when I got the “Russian Flu” in the late 70’s as a teenager – I felt like I was dying for several days and it took two weeks before I was feeling back to my old self again), influenza is, when it kills, typically deadly only to the very young, the very old and people with compromised immune systems. And most of the people that die from influenza actually die from secondary infections like pneumonia many weeks after contracting the flu.
The 1918 so called Spanish flu (a strain of H1N1 BTW) was however very different in that it hit young healthy adults the worst and killed in the matter of days not weeks due to their immune systems going into hyper drive, a “cytokine storm”. The 1918 flu pandemic killed more people worldwide than those killed during WWI and by some estimates rivaled in its death toll that of some of the Black Death outbreaks of the middle ages. Read up sometime on the 1918 flu pandemic that by some estimates is believed to have killed 50 million or more people worldwide during the course of only two years and then get back to us on how the flu is nothing to sneeze over.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic
Ebola is different in that it does not affect the upper respiratory system. While people who contract Ebola sometimes get sore throats at onset, Ebola “is often characterized by the sudden onset of fever, intense weakness, muscle pain, headache and sore throat. This is followed by vomiting, diarrhoea, rash, impaired kidney and liver function, and in some cases, both internal and external bleeding. Laboratory findings include low white blood cell and platelet counts and elevated liver enzymes.” It causes bleeding, both internally and sometimes externally because it breaks down blood vessel and capillaries.
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs103/en/
Ebola is not communicable and spread person to person until symptoms manifest and by the time that happens most people are quite obviously and debilitatingly ill. And in order to contract it, one has to be in direct contact with the bodily fluids of the infected person, it is not spread via casual contact meaning one could sit next to someone with Ebola and not become infected (not that I’d like to sit on a 12 hour airplane flight with someone who has Ebola) but one can’t catch it by merely breathing the same air, and unless that person came in direct contact with the infected person’s blood, vomit, feces, sweat, etc via a break in their skin. This is why and how health care workers and close family members caring for the sick are most likely to contract it. While Ebola is highly infectious and very deadly, depending on the strain, has anywhere from a 60 to 90 percent fatality rate, it is not “easy” to catch but being that it is so deadly and a biohazard, extreme precautions have to be undertaken in dealing with people who have it and in properly deposing of the dead and their soiled with the highly infectious bodily fluids still on their clothing and bedding. https://www.bcm.edu/departments/molecular-virology-and-microbiology/ebola
Personally I am more concerned over the spread of drug resistant strains of TB, the reemergence of diseases like Polio and measles and chicken pox via those who should know better but yet refuse to get vaccinated or their children vaccinated and the possibility of a mutated strain of H1N1 virus mutating into something like the Spanish Flu than I am over my risk of contracting Ebola.
Ebola, once contracted is indeed a grave condition, depending on the strain, it is the gravest of viruses.
No matter the present condition of someone who has it, they are in big trouble.
Yeah, typhoid Mary is irrelevant to this thread.
It is great that these two American Ebola medical people are going to be the expert guinea pigs for our own researchers and medical personnel.
“”This will be the first human Ebola test for a U.S. medical facility. But Brantly and Writebol will be treated at an isolated unit where precautions have been in place to keep such deadly diseases from spreading, unit supervisor Dr. Bruce Ribner said.””
“”Emory’s isolation unit was created with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, based down the road. It aims to optimize care for those with highly infectious diseases and is one of four U.S. institutions capable of providing such treatment.””
“”The National Institutes of Health plans to begin testing an experimental Ebola vaccine in people as early as September. Tests on primates have been successful.””
Good post, but remember to put the name of the person you are correcting or disagreeing with, first.
That is the thing about medicine. It is not settled science, but instead based on opinions.
Believe what you want, but the risk of Ebola getting out is Zero if there are no cases in the US. That is no longer the case.
I read it - good things can come of it as you say.
The CDC has destroyed it’s credibility for at least decades, that is true, that will play out for the rest of my life and we see it here.
There’s also the possibility of vaccine-resistant pathogens as well, in addition to the antibiotic-resistant ones.
Even if something utterly stupid happened, and it did manage to get out.
It would be easily contained.
But it won’t. Unless someone does it intentionally.
But that is another topic...entirely. And it could be done without these two people being moved to the US.
But they would never do it, unless all they wanted to do was to scare the beans out of some people. The disease is not something one would consider using as a weapon because it is far too hard to spread.
That should tell you something..
Ebola takes time to develop, say 20 days of infection before you get real critical. Then you have a few days of progression before the ugly death. He may be walking now, but see how he is in a few days.
The less people involved the better. HE walked in in full protective gear. Would you rather expose more people to direct contact by having them carry him if he was capable of walking?
Why even bring them here in the first place? Zero experience dealing with Ebola at Emory, much experience at several well equipped hospitals in Africa.
Totally irresponsible on the part of State Dept and CDC.
With school starting in Ga in 3 days, a perfect opportunity to see if it really is controllable.
I doubt he has an agenda to Contaminate the world or nobody would know he actually has it.
The hyperbole over this is crazy. He's a Doctor.
Hah, me too. Traffic is a pain. Everybody stay home please.
I agree - that is my reading of the situation.
If people like BlackAgnes, & I, can put up with being wheeled into the hospital - even though one merely had a fall or a faint, and already felt well enough to walk - but were told to stay on the stretcher - then why can't this doctor?
It is well known that Doctors make the worst patients. They cut corners, hide symptoms, give accounts of their situation laced with medical language to influence those who hear them, and often believe themselves to be outside the rules of quarantine.
See post 143.
All I am trying to get through to you is that you and others are hyperventilating over this.
This disease is no worse and in my opinion much less dangerous to us in the US then diseases that hospital deals with every week.
LOL!!!
I did bot see a number listed for previous cases of Ebola treated at Emory . BTW the number is zero.
As for the good Dr: “But Brantly and Writebol will be treated at an isolated unit where precautions have been in place to keep such deadly diseases from spreading, unit supervisor Dr. Bruce Ribner said.””
These are the exact same procedures that were in place at CDC that did not stop several releases of “contained” infectious agents lately.
Also, the same procedures did not stop the release of the W Nile virus from the “highly secure NY research lab”. That introduced WNV into the western hemisphere for the first time, it is now endimic in the US.
The procedures could very well be perfect (they aren’t), but no one is perfect, and everyone makes mistakes.
Good post.
Lots of crazy on this thread. Thank you for being a voice of reason.
I am thrilled that Dr. Brantly is ambulatory and appears to be coping well, but it seems like some are disappointed that he didn’t bleed out on the tarmac.
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