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To: PieterCasparzen
Think of how many P-51’s and dive bombers could have been manufactured if we never built any B-17’s or B-29’s.

So you do wish we had lost the war. What a stupid concept, to think that we had the intel and targeting capability to attack successfully individual targets. But what of the indiscriminate fragmentation? That could kill 'innocents' as well.

AA guns can be photographed from 30,000 ft and targeted for desctruction.

With what in WWII? Our satellites? AA was and is mobile, no ongoing intel/comm pictures a few hours old are useless considering the CEP of the weapon systems of that era.

Every day you keep doing sorties to flush out their air defences. Every AA action is reported back, and the next sorties go and destroy what was shooting. You keep doing this until nothing flies and nothing shoots at you. Then you have air supremecy.

What are you, ten? You have all this regard for the civilians of Japan, but obviously none for American airmen. No way to communicate those positions for the 'second' strike. You have no concept of what WWII was about tactically, you continue to embarrass yourself for the sake of your Just War theory. Just argue that, leave aviation, targeting, intel, communications, and any other defense related topic off the table.

160 posted on 08/03/2014 6:28:38 AM PDT by xone
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To: xone
Think of how many P-51’s and dive bombers could have been manufactured if we never built any B-17’s or B-29’s.

So you do wish we had lost the war. What a stupid concept, to think that we had the intel and targeting capability to attack successfully individual targets. But what of the indiscriminate fragmentation? That could kill 'innocents' as well.


Dude, you don't think there was aerial reconnaissance in WWII ? We had B-29s overflying doing recon from 30,000 feet. We had various aerial recon equipment from all altitudes. You know that. You continue to try to convince that our military was "helpless" to oppose Japanese air defenses, when, according to my earlier post quote, which I doubt would be denied by any serious military historian, by April 1945 Japanese air defenses were pretty much defunct. That was without concentrating 100% effort against them. AA guns can be photographed from 30,000 ft and targeted for desctruction.

With what in WWII? Our satellites? AA was and is mobile, no ongoing intel/comm pictures a few hours old are useless considering the CEP of the weapon systems of that era.


Dude ! There are after action reports. "golly, there was AA on the west side of town by X. Ok, tomorrow we'll be sure to drop them a visit".

You act as if it is nuclear bomb or NOTHING. If there WAS NO nuclear bomb available, it would have been an invasion. I know that it contradicts your heroic atomic bomb dogma, but how many would you be willing to slaughter by sending them into a ground war - and leaving the Japanese air force happily operating because they are "off limits" ?

What are you, ten? You have all this regard for the civilians of Japan, but obviously none for American airmen. No way to communicate those positions for the 'second' strike. You have no concept of what WWII was about tactically, you continue to embarrass yourself for the sake of your Just War theory. Just argue that, leave aviation, targeting, intel, communications, and any other defense related topic off the table.

LOL, that's funny, you're a funny guy. So because I'm opposed to dropping an atomic bomb on civilians, suddenly now I must also be oppposed to a handful of civilians being killed unintentionally by bombs targeted at military targets !

Once one buys into the "atomic bomb saved us all" myth, one must cling to the idea that any and all other options would have destroyed America and lost the war, and we'd all be speaking Japanese today.
167 posted on 08/03/2014 7:04:24 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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