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NY judge: US warrant can reach email in Ireland
Associated Press ^ | Jul 31, 2014 7:27 PM EDT | Larry Neumeister

Posted on 08/01/2014 2:42:51 AM PDT by Olog-hai

U.S. law enforcement can force Microsoft Corp. to turn over emails it stores in Ireland, a judge ruled in a case that technology companies have rallied around as they pursue billions of dollars in data storage business abroad. […]

The Redmond, Washington-based software company has said rulings forcing it to turn over emails threaten to rewrite the Constitution’s protections against illegal search and seizure and could damage U.S. foreign relations. Its arguments were joined by large technology companies, including Apple Inc., Cisco Systems Inc., Verizon Communications Inc. and AT&T Inc. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: 4thamendment; emails; eussr; fourthamendment; ireland; microsoft
Any buyer’s remorse for all those Dem votes yet?
1 posted on 08/01/2014 2:42:52 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

The arrogance is breathtaking. It’s like these people think they’re gods.


2 posted on 08/01/2014 2:48:53 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

It’ll come back to bite them. The backlash already started in Germany, and it’ll cascade to the other EU states.


3 posted on 08/01/2014 2:51:28 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
From the article:

U.S. District Judge Loretta A. Preska ruled from the bench ... it was a question of who controlled the data rather than where it was stored.

So if the clear wording of the Constitution gets in the way, just make something up (doesn't matter what) to justify getting around it! This judge is insane ...

4 posted on 08/01/2014 3:09:12 AM PDT by Ken522
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To: Ken522

Utterly corrupt kritocracy.


5 posted on 08/01/2014 3:12:30 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Just like bank accounts, next you will be required to report foreign email accounts. They will rifle through the data at will, claiming that since it is overseas, the 4th amendment does not apply.
6 posted on 08/01/2014 3:30:05 AM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: Olog-hai

Good for Microsoft to fight this battle!


7 posted on 08/01/2014 3:37:35 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Olog-hai

Microsoft deserves praise for standing up against the US Federal Gov’t!

Why isn’t Apple and Google joining in to protect privacy?


8 posted on 08/01/2014 3:41:43 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: Erik Latranyi

Apple is, at least. Google cooperates with tyrants, whether domestic or foreign (China of course, and the EU with its “right to be forgotten” thingy).


9 posted on 08/01/2014 3:43:21 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Erik Latranyi

Read the article, Apple is right there. Also, keep in mind that the NSA has repeatedly complained about how hard Apple iDevices are to crack and recover data from. No such complaints from them about Microsoft and Google’s mobile platforms... Apple also has refused to install a backdoor for the NSA. That’s some resistance right there.


10 posted on 08/01/2014 3:48:57 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Olog-hai

“hristopher Soghoian...said in a statement afterward that the ruling was “a major blow not just for Microsoft, but for the entire U.S. cloud computing industry.”

Anything that takes away from “the cloud” is a WINNER in my book. I like the cloud almost as much as I like Windows 8...which is not very much, to say the least.


11 posted on 08/01/2014 3:51:08 AM PDT by BobL
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To: BobL

The so-called “cloud” is collectivization and data-mining. And enough self-described conservative talk show hosts do commercials for cloud backup systems too (e.g. Lifelock).


12 posted on 08/01/2014 3:53:29 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

They can issue a warrant, let’s see if anyone in Ireland cares


13 posted on 08/01/2014 4:16:32 AM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz 2016)
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To: Olog-hai

“The so-called “cloud” is collectivization and data-mining. And enough self-described conservative talk show hosts do commercials for cloud backup systems too (e.g. Lifelock).”

The advertising doesn’t bother me too much as pretty much all the ads now on conservative national radio shows are bottom-feeders - and the shows need someone to pay their way. What bothers me a LOT MORE is how effective the left has been to keep mainstream advertisers off of those shows. That is SCARY stuff to me.


14 posted on 08/01/2014 4:22:07 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Olog-hai

Borders?

We don’t need no stinkin’ borders...


15 posted on 08/01/2014 4:31:19 AM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Olog-hai

Skynet, meet The Cloud.


16 posted on 08/01/2014 5:31:27 AM PDT by polymuser ( Enough is enough.)
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To: Olog-hai

How is this done for physical evidence? If I keep papers or some OJ style bloody gloves in Ireland what are the procedures for getting a warrant to get them? Would Irish officials obey them or just ignore them?


17 posted on 08/01/2014 6:08:24 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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To: Mr. K
They can issue a warrant, let’s see if anyone in Ireland cares

Yeah, but then step two is to start seizing Irish assets until they comply...stuff like that is already happening.

18 posted on 08/01/2014 6:13:42 AM PDT by Moltke (Sapere aude!)
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To: Ken522

The Constitutional penumbra keeps growing.


19 posted on 08/01/2014 6:57:07 AM PDT by ken in texas
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To: Olog-hai

Yet another reason foreigners will have for not using American companies. Good job FedGov!


20 posted on 08/01/2014 10:00:02 AM PDT by zeugma (Islam: The Antidote for civilization)
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