Posted on 07/30/2014 6:58:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
The Commerce Department had some good news about the U.S. economy today: Rebounding from a quarter of negative growth, Commerce said the country's gross domestic product expanded at a 4 percent annual rate during the second quarter.
"The increase in real GDP in the second quarter primarily reflected positive contributions from personal consumption expenditures (PCE), private inventory investment, exports, nonresidential fixed investment, state and local government spending, and residential fixed investment," Commerce said in a statement.
As The Wall Street Journal sees it, the positive news is fueling hopes "for sustained growth in the second half of 2014." The paper adds:
"The solid gains come on the heels of a first quarter when the economy shrank at a 2.1% pace. While still the worst quarter of the current recovery, the figure reflects an upward revision from a previously estimated 2.9% contraction. The economy only grew at about a 1% pace for the first half of 2014.
"Annual revisions, also released Wednesday, showed the economy also expanded at a 4% pace in the second half of 2013, the best six-month stretch in 10 years.
(Excerpt) Read more at npr.org ...
See ,Obama said the Illegals would be good for the country ,BARF
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA . . .
That’s 1Q12 estimate... That was later revised to +2.3%
He was referring to 1Q14 - Advance estimate was +0.1%, later revised to the -2.9%. Today revised to -2.1%
The revisions schedule is published and is as follows:
August 28th - 2Q14 1st revision
September 26th - 2Q14 2nd revision
October 30th - 2Q14 3rd revision and 3Q14 Advance
Oh and I definitely agree on your 80’s economy comment. 1.5-2.0% growth is significantly behind the Reagan recovery. And from arguably a much worse recession.
I’m wondering if government expenditures on bammycare subsidies are now included in the GDP.
I think that is the case. I listen to Tom Sullivan on Fox Radio, and a while back he warned that the two quarters before the midterms were going to show explosive growth due to the Obamacare subsidies. I think the first quarter numbers displayed such a drop for that reason - they shifted the subsidies and took a hit early so they could reap the benefit later.
At least that’s what I understood.
The Recovery Doesn't Look As Good After A Revision Buried In Today's GDP Report
REUTERS/Eric Thayer
A home that was damaged by Hurricane Sandy, is seen in Union Beach, New Jersey November 12, 2012. The current economic recovery is still just so-so.
As part of today's initial GDP report from the Bureau of Economic Analysis, the BEA also revised GDP for 2011 to 2013 down to 2.0% from 2.2%.
For the period spanning the fourth quarter of 2010 through the first quarter of this year, real GDP growth remained 1.8%, the same rate as previously published.
From the BEA:
The percent change in real GDP was revised down 0.2 percentage point for 2011, was revised down 0.5 percentage point for 2012, and was revised up 0.3 percentage point for 2013.
For 2011, the largest contributors to the downward revision to the percent change in real GDP were a downward revision to personal consumption expenditures (PCE) and an upward revision to imports.
For 2012, the largest contributors to the downward revision were downward revisions to PCE and to state and local government spending.
For 2013, the largest contributors to the upward revision were upward revisions to PCE and to state and local government spending; these revisions were partly offset by a downward revision to private inventory investment."
In its report following the GDP report, The Wall Street Journal said that the recovery that began in 2009 is the weakest since World War II.
This chart shows how GDP growth has been inconsistent since the financial crisis.
This table from the BEA shows quarterly GDP through 2011 and annually going back to 2010.
The latest GDP report also included annual GDP revisions going back to 1999, seen in this table from the GDP.
Short answer, not a material impact: http://www.businessinsider.com/healthcare-spending-estimates-gdp-data-2014-7
Article also helps demonstrate how difficult it is to measure GDP. People on here want to rip the BEA for their “revisions” but given the data they have to work with and the timeframe it’s pretty amazing they get the info out at all. My company has yet to report our last quarter results and we are a $1.2 billion company with 5,000 employees. Significantly less complex than a $16 Trillion economy of 350 million people...
If we average the last two quarters, growth is 0.5%. Big whoop.
How did they “cook the books?”
DJIA likes that good news. /sarc
So.... How are these illegals counted in the calculations?
THEY AREN’T except to say that the government spending that goes in to their welfare counts toward the GDP.
Only have one more such report.
It must be Fake Number Wednesday, later to be followed by Revision News Dump Friday.
I wonder if they are going to publish the recipe on cooking the the books.
This number will be revised downward.
Gary Shilling says the number is closer to 1%. There has been a very flat Core Capex.
We are in a very weak recovery that is far from widespread. Many don’t feel any recovery. The current administration has mismanaged their policies and deserves little or no credit- only the dynamism of the economy generates any growth at all.
That said, people need to look at reality and stop being so political about the stats. The market yawned at the report, but too many conservatives fear any growth for fear of political (novermer elections) implications. Don’t fear one quarter results. Sure the media will try to portray this as the recovery the admin has been touting for 5 years. But after cying wolf for 5 years, their credibilty is very low with most. The real numbers don’t matter to the media anyway. They twist the numbers to fit their narrative.
BS propaganda from NPR.
Great post. Dead on. Not to mention that GDP is perhaps the most worthless econ stat around. It’s backward looking. Industrial Production is a far better indicator of economic health.
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