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Good news today about carrying in DC so I thought I might go ahead and take the opportunity to remind everyone that not all of the establishment supports an armed public.
1 posted on 07/28/2014 9:57:54 AM PDT by SLB
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To: Joe Brower; Squantos; Lion Den Dan; Jeff Head

Original article was in The Atlantic.


2 posted on 07/28/2014 9:58:48 AM PDT by SLB (23rd Artillery Group, Republic of South Vietnam, Aug 1970 - Aug 1971.)
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I’ve heard the argument ‘yeah, but who needs a bazooka’. Well, if the local police have an MWRAP then I need an RPG.


3 posted on 07/28/2014 10:01:42 AM PDT by tbpiper
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The military should be equipped with PaintSoft guns to minimize the impact on the civilian market.


4 posted on 07/28/2014 10:03:24 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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Hey, I’ve got a imaginative idea...

How about a Colt 1911......? or any brand of 1911....lol


6 posted on 07/28/2014 10:06:57 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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This article is stupid. On-scene emergency medicine and response times have improved over the decades, so more victims are going to “arrive at the ER” with more bullet wounds. Previously, they would just bleed out on the scene. The availability of telecommunications to citizens (phones in more homes, cell phones, etc.) would improve the likelihood of a faster EMS response to a shooting scene. There are many factors that would affect these numbers beyond the number of evil bullets in an evil gun.


7 posted on 07/28/2014 10:09:34 AM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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What a totally stupid article. The complete lack of logic and critical thinking should embarrass leftists into silence.


8 posted on 07/28/2014 10:15:45 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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Thanks for the posting. Makes me wonder what kind of crunch’nticker the military will come up with. I miss the opportunity of discussing this with you over coffee.
Dan


12 posted on 07/28/2014 10:24:38 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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I see bloomberg is spreading his money around to get “journalists” to write anti-gun propaganda for him.


15 posted on 07/28/2014 10:39:08 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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16 posted on 07/28/2014 10:48:03 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: SLB
Perhaps the relatively wimpy 9mm cartridge also contributes to victim survival.

The purpose of a military firearm is to incapacitate, not necessarily kill. A victim with multiple 9mm holes in him is much more likely to survive to get to the ER than one who has multiple 45 caliber holes.

Also, the man with only six shots available to him is much more likely to place his shots where he wants them, the high-capacity shooter tends to "spray and pray", hoping to hit something.

Therefore, it seems to me that the author should be grateful for the high capacity, wimpier modern handguns.

17 posted on 07/28/2014 10:52:58 AM PDT by snowtigger (It ain't what you shoot, it's what you hit.)
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She’s got me convinced. I need to go back and use older, less lethal technology, like the 1911 and the M-14.


21 posted on 07/28/2014 11:17:02 AM PDT by Rhinoman (SMSgt, USAF (Ret))
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Complete B.S.The study was done in the 1980s, and gunshot victims have dropped radically since that time. Pure data picking and speculation.

Numerous other studies debunk this pile.


23 posted on 07/28/2014 1:01:55 PM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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Yeah, it sounds like an Atlantic writer - cherry-picked statistics, outdated studies, hysterical claims backed up by no evidence.

Even if the industry were to overcome the technological hurdles, though, the Army isn’t likely to adopt smart-gun technology now or any time soon—why would they?

Why indeed? In the Army you are likely to have to shoot another soldier's weapon at short notice. Making that impossible is not going to increase anyone's combat effectiveness. A flashing "unauthorized access" light is not going to impress many opponents - the thing needs to go "bang".

If I had to speculate about a new caliber it would probably be a relatively cautious choice such as the .40 S&W, just because the government already owns so many of them and so much ammunition. I'd prefer the .45 ACP or the .357 SiG, personally, at least as far as wound capacity. I also think that the U.S. military needs to go to expanding ammunition for these platforms. The U.S. never signed the Hague Convention that forbids them anyway. We did sign this (from the GunZone article):

Where the U.S. did sign on, however, was with the Hague Convention IV of 1907, Article 23(e) of which Annex states: "…it is especially forbidden -
To employ arms, projectiles, or material{sic} calculated to cause unnecessary suffering;"

The purpose of expanding ammunition is not to cause suffering, but to prevent it. I think that might make a bigger difference than simply switching calibers.

25 posted on 07/28/2014 3:09:15 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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29 posted on 07/29/2014 9:51:24 AM PDT by devolve (-Tell VLADIMER after my ERECTION I have more 90% more FLEXIBILITY - pre-1899 Colt SAA frames needed)
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- nice on a Colt .36 Navy revolver - I built one for my daughter… for a circa 1859 Colt .36 Model of 1851 Navy

- I am now using a circa 1862 Confederate Colt .36 Navy round .36 barrel fitted to an antique Colt .36 Navy steel frame with mother-of-pearl grips hand-fitted on antique Colt hand-engraved brass grip frames converted to modern smokeless powder .38 special Cowboy Loads

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37 posted on 08/01/2014 7:21:00 AM PDT by devolve (-Tell VLADIMER after my ERECTION I have more 90% more FLEXIBILITY - pre-1899 Colt SAA frames needed)
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