Posted on 07/25/2014 8:22:48 PM PDT by duckln
In Ukraine, Putin responded to a U.S.-backed coup, which ousted a democratically elected political ally of Russia, with a bloodless seizure of the pro-Russian Crimea where Moscow has berthed its Black Sea fleet since the 18th century. This is routine Big Power geopolitics.
You are a complete fool. Treaties between other countries do not have to be ratified by our congress
Only when talking to deceptive people. They're always trying to wiggle out of things.
Which it stupid, since, at the very least, it would mean they wouldn't be invaded by the Russkies who signed it. That said, for the Reds, to paraphrase Lenin, agreements are like pie crusts, meant to be broken.
What was of dubious legality was the Soviet regime, which exterminated the "kulaks" and between 2 to 7 million Ukrainians, and also German and other peoples who had taken up residence there.
Regarding Crimea .........there is a long history of Crimea trying to get it’s Independence from Ukraine:
This is sad defense for a fraudulent and corrupt election. Russkie soldiers, armed with grenade launchers, marched in a fringe Russian-Annexation party leader (with 2 members in the Crimean rada), who was also a member of the Russian mafia (which is populated by "former" KGB), and was made Prime Minister on the spot, without any election.
The Referendum that he declared afterwards was launched through 1) Complete control of media with constant lies. 2) Little kids voting. 3) Ballots being trucked in apparently already filled out with a "yes" vote. 4) People being disappeared from off the street, tortured to death, and their bodies found in the woods later. 5) Russkies marking Tatar houses to remind them of Soviet purges.
And the result of something like 80 or 90 percent in favor was impossible, because even the very best polls that had been taken in the area showed that they were, at best, split between independence (and thus annexation) and not, with 30 percent of the population, at the very least, guaranteed to always oppose it.
As for the "dubious" legality of giving Crimea to Ukraine. Crimea is geographically connected to Ukraine. It is the Soviet regime, which killed between 2 to 7 million people in Ukraine, including ethnic Germans and others, and colonized the land, that is of dubious legality.
Correct! Well done!
I like how you badmouth Kiev as being backward and corrupt, but then whine when the Ukrainians got rid of their corrupt leader who was a puppet of Moscow.
I hope you enjoy the other treaties we will be forced to live under in spite of their not being ratified just as much.
You might want to look into that.
I see that you must spend much of the day questioning yourself, Greetings. Do people give you funny look when you're talking to yourself?
@ caww:
Kiev responded to this with the threat of force, and at that point the bargaining began....... The Crimeans, for their part, used the separatist threat to gain some leverage in the negotiations with Kiev:.... what they wanted – and got – was ‘control over local resources’, which were about to be “privatized” by the crooks in Kiev. and looted by various Western Ukrainian oligarchs...........
The usual looting by the Western-connected slugs, which is ongoing even in our portion of the world.
I'm fascinated that the childhood programming to hate "all things Russian/Communist" is still so strong across a wide segment of Merkun society - even though the society voted in a Communist in the last two presidential elections.
The lesson of history is pretty clear: don't mess with the Russian bear where he can get hold of you. Outside his stomping grounds, the danger is minimal. Two great armies had to learn this maxim in massive rivers of blood and frost.
Get the bear outside his box, and you get the Battle of the Tsushima Straits. More history. :)
"Merkun"? You're outing yourself as a depraved leftist, and I hadn't even expected that.
The lesson of history is pretty clear: don't mess with the Russian bear where he can get hold of you.
The best answer to the Red Menace, whether it is a Bear or from Asia, is a bullet from a rifle, otherwise it does not stop consuming. That's the only way these rampaging murderous scumbags will ever be stopped.
Today, living in a Democracy, with Putin, they are much better off.
In the last 30 years Russia has changed, with our urging, for the better. We however are declining into a socialist state. I see Putin's Russia as a positive for us if we can get over stereotyping negatives, and partner with them.
LOL! I'm a "depraved Leftist" who has managed to escape detection by the Free Republic Viking Kitties for a decade and a half.
Until now, when the eagle-eyed newcomer Greetings_Puny_Humans finally got my number.
Sounds like you're questioning yourself, yet again. LOL! :)
This is an observation that is entirely divorced from the reality.
There are people being sentenced to hard labor in neo-soviet gulags in Russia. There are people being murdered in Russia. The "democratic" system does not exist in Russia, only its appearance,and new crazed ideologies replace the old ones.
Who other than a depraved leftist uses language like "Merkun" and speaks as you do? Who attacks America like this and shows so little respect for his country, and actively tells us to appease a murderous animal? Either you are a leftist, or a depraved Paultard. Either way, you are no patriot.
Sorta like how Hitler's related to the Jews. And he was crazy.
I drove to Washington for the March For Justice, along with a bunch of other patriots.
Were you there? LOL! :)
:-)
Stinging up the "former" communists and KGB in their country who are running their government would work. As for "garbage," it is not garbage at all. Everything I have said is completely accurate.
Sorta like how Hitler's related to the Jews. And he was crazy.
Way to go bringing upon yourself Godwin's law, and also the favorite Russkie insult to all their opponents who do not suck up to their murdering KGB tyrant. Guess you don't have any legitimate reply to absolve the "former" communists murdering and rampaging in Russia.
Who knew you'd deign to walk with the idiot "Merkuns" who have been brainwashed to hate Communism.
Were you there? LOL! :)
Nice try, but this "Merkun" is a popular anti-American slur amongst leftists and even Paultards. You didn't deny the latter, so I'm guessing that's where you're at.
Well we can almost agree on that.....although it's system of governance has been more a criminal mafia operation then anything resembling Governance....and basically leaving little to the Ukrainian people themselves.
......”Ukrainians got rid of their corrupt leader who was a puppet of Moscow”........
Well that WAS their intentions, but it wasn't the Ukrainian ‘citizens’ who ultimately took control of the Revolutions reins....as we all now fully now....and and why the New Government is folding in on itself. “They”, depending on who you want to call they of the Maidan, just got the rug pulled out from underneath them....they have served their purpose, time to go....while those really controlling this game board set up their Governance with their people. As for Yancovich...Putin didn't like him either...but he works with what's there to work with.....so he tolerated the creep and went ahead with business at hand.....similar to how he sees Obama....neither of which knew how to conduct foreign affairs.
Yes I do. It's bull shit, typical of your postings.
If what you say were true, Putin would not have an 80%+ approval rating.
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