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If they can't sell it in Europe, they can't sell it anywhere..............

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http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140723/AUTO0103/307230062/GM-scraps-European-version-Chevy-Volt

1 posted on 07/23/2014 9:44:49 AM PDT by Red Badger
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2 posted on 07/23/2014 9:45:46 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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I figured the Ampera would be an even bigger flop than its North American sibling. It has too many small, economical diesels as competition in Europe.


5 posted on 07/23/2014 9:52:23 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Red Badger

Doesn’t it have a generator onboard to charge the battery or some such? BTW, they can’t sell the very expensive Cadillac version, either:

Drastic price cuts place Cadillac ELR where it should have been all along
http://www.torquenews.com/2250/drastic-price-cuts-place-cadillac-elr-where-it-should-have-been-all-along#sthash.KjRucm6k.dpuf

Oh, and they did cancel the Opel just now:

GM scraps European version of Chevy Volt
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140723/AUTO0103/307230062/GM-scraps-European-version-Chevy-Volt


6 posted on 07/23/2014 9:53:29 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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I have great memories of an old Opel we had decades ago. My bil put a racing motor in it and I had so much fun with it. I learned to drive a straight shift on Memorial Parkway. Guys would come in the other lane and I would leave them in the dust. Of course, I was a lot younger back then. I miss it. : )


7 posted on 07/23/2014 9:55:13 AM PDT by MamaB (Ndd)
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The volt would have been a good concept IF they would have went with charging while driving, and utilized regenerative braking, instead of the total loss isolated traction system that they came up with. They basically replaced one gallon of fuel with a ton of lithium ion batteries.

If you want a truly fuel efficient vehicle, fuel cell to electric propulsion is the way to go. 90+% efficient electric motors combined with 50+% efficient fuel cells would squeeze as much energy out of the fuel as you could get, and would be a two fold increase in fuel efficiency. As a benchmark, about 22~25% at best is what you get from an internal combustion engine as far as converting the energy in the fuel to moving the vehicle forward.

Put in other terms, for every gallon of fuel that you burn in your car, 75% of that fuel is wasted as heat in the exhaust, the cooling system, and parasitic losses in the drivetrain as frictional losses.


12 posted on 07/23/2014 10:03:40 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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The Volt isn’t a bad looking car. That thing is gross.


18 posted on 07/23/2014 10:18:48 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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Evidently they need more generous government subsidies like they have in the states.


21 posted on 07/23/2014 10:24:49 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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The Euro-Weenies are increasingly into Diesel. Why invest in this technology, when for less money you can get style, performance, and 65 mpg in a VW GTI, Alfa, Volvo or any other Euro-Car (they all have a diesel version)?

When do we get Diesel-ized? Those FIAT-weenies are a disappointment because they are sitting on a very cool diesel that is a best seller in the EU ... and like totally unavailable here.

27 posted on 07/23/2014 10:39:19 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)
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I remember about 8 or 9 years ago my father-in-law showed me a Powerpoint presentation that was making its way around the cyber universe about this huge conspiracy by certain “powers” to kill the original Volt which was prototyped by GM. It was classic lefty conspiracy stuff.

Not long after Obama was elected and GM was bailed out, the Volt as we know it today was introduced. I always felt that Lefties in the administration (redundant) had to make things right after learning about the injustice based on the PPT presentation and force this POS on the market.


32 posted on 07/23/2014 10:53:29 AM PDT by GWB00 (Barbara Streisand barely made it out of high school.)
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There is an irony that high electric rates in many European countries as a result of green energy could make a rechargeable vehicle too expensive to operate.


37 posted on 07/23/2014 11:09:40 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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