Posted on 07/21/2014 4:22:57 PM PDT by The Bat Ladys Husband
Ukraine hasnt said how it immediately knew rebels downed Malaysian plane, notes the Russian Foreign Ministry, as it unveils 10 awkward questions for Ukraine (and perhaps the US 'snap judgment') to answer about the MH17 disaster. However, what is perhaps more concerning for the hordes of finger-pointers is that:
RUSSIA HAS IMAGES OF UKRAINE DEPLOYING BUK ROCKETS IN EAST: IFX RUSSIA: UKRAINE MOVED BUK NEAR REBELS IN DONETSK JULY 17: IFX RUSSIA DETECTED UKRAINIAN FIGHTER JET PICK UP SPEED TOWARD MH17
(Excerpt) Read more at zerohedge.com ...
1939: Germany Says Has Photos of Poland Attacking Gleiwitz Radio Station
Putin isn’t Hitler. Come on.
I am not more prone to believe Obama than Putin. Are you?
RUSSIA HAS IMAGES OF UKRAINE DEPLOYING BUK ROCKETS IN EAST
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...and then the Ukrainians hot footed out of Ukrain into Russia?
Yeah, that’s the ticket.
No but numerous other sources put the responsibility on Russia.
A Ukraine Air Force military jet was detected gaining height, its distance from the Malaysian Boeing was 3 to 5km, said the head of the Main Operations Directorate of the HQ of Russias military forces, Lieutenant-General Andrey Kartopolov speaking at a media conference in Moscow on Monday.
[We] would like to get an explanation as to why the military jet was flying along a civil aviation corridor at almost the same time and at the same level as a passenger plane, he stated."
The Russkie shamelessly claims the SU-25 can reach 10KM. It does not. That's why there is a Wikipedia war going on right now with the Russkies trying to upgrade the SU-25, at least online, for a gullible public:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3183152/posts
One can tell that they aren't trying to fool any governments here. They are going after the public, since they know the public isn't likely to know things like what an SU-25 can or can't do, or what the maximum range of a Buk is.
Zerohedge also is reporting on the Russkies "debunking" the photographs of the Buks returning to Russia. Which is also BS:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3183175/posts
Fact of the matter is, these stupid Russkies already admitted to shooting it down and to having the weapons necessary to do it, even while these losers shamelessly put forward all kinds of conspiracy theories to cover it up.
First to know a plane was down was Strelkov, who reported on twitter that they had shut down a Ukrainian AN26. It was immediately followed by Russian TV Life News who also reported shooting a Ukrainian plane. Both instances are documented.
I can make them, too. How about all the nations who lost citizens in the crash get all their intel together, not on an IRS hard drive, keep the originals and have a forum. One nation who did not lose a citizen and can be trusted as arbitrator. Good luck with that.
The Russian propaganda is at least plausible.
Hey, Russia got the evidence from Dan Rather who picked it up at Kinko’s. What more do you need?!?
“Ukraine has missiles too.”
Those pesky facts again. Dayum!
The service ceiling of the Frogfoot is 7km but the maximum ceiling is 10km. The "Russkie" is correct. Use a reliable source like Global Security instead of Wikipedia. The fact is right now we have no idea who shot the plane down because the Ukrainians, Russians, and separatists are all liars.
Amazing what computers can do these days.
Something doesn't smell right.
And I’m an idiot that can’t read...
Global Security says the Ukranians have the 7km max ceiling version.
But I still stand by that everyone in that region is lying about their roles in the event.
this and the missing MH370 conspiracy theory together, are thought provoking at least.
Obama/Kerry aren't exactly known for being honest... about anything.
Looks like we’re finally getting to the bottom of this.
I figured the “blame Putin” push was just to get those Central American kids out of the news...and it worked GREAT.
Remember back at the beginning of Obama's first administration, the "beer summit" because Obama assumed his black friend was correct and the Cambridge MA policemen were in error? Remember Obama's response to Treyvon's death before he had any facts? Didn't Obama ignore warnings about the Tsarnov maniacs? Remember labeling Snowden as a traitor?
My point is that Obama has a sorry history of drawing conclusions based on who he likes and who he doesn't like. And Obama does not like Putin. And Obama jumped to conclusions in this situation based on some strangely perfect "evidence" from Kiev.
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