Posted on 07/20/2014 9:48:59 AM PDT by Star Traveler
Thirteen soldiers were killed overnight when they encountered fierce resistance fighting in the dense urban environment of Gaza City, the IDF announced Sunday evening.
The central battle began when an anti-tank missile fired from within a Gaza building struck an Israeli armored personnel carrier, killing seven soldiers from the 13th battalion of the Golani Brigade, the army said.
The ambush, supported by machine gun fire, took place in the Shejaiya neighborhood of Gaza City, in the northern part of the 40-kilometer-long Strip.
In the ensuing fighting, an unspecified number of soldiers were wounded, including Col. Ghassan Elian, the commander of the Golani Brigade, whose wound was deemed light to moderate.
The army did not immediately release for publication the names of the soldiers who were killed. The families were informed earlier on Sunday. At least two of the Israeli soldiers killed were dual US-Israel nationals, according to IDF officials. All the 13 fatalities were from the Golani Brigade, the army said.
(Excerpt) Read more at timesofisrael.com ...
They better go after the people who did this AND the tunnels now
I didn't say that they did I said that they should so that's just another straw man you're throwing out there.
It’s much better to shower the urban area with 155 mm howitzer rounds from several miles away.
Anyone who says Israel SHOULD DO what Israel DENIES it does, and that they SHOULD DO what the Islamic Terrorists lie about and say that Israel does — is doing nothing but working against Israel and it telling the truth and helping the Islamic Terrorist propaganda!
Post #27 ... “leveling Gaza” ...
When Hitlerjugende took potshots at GIs from homes, the Army leveled the building. No [fornicating] questions asked. If the IDF fought like the Americans in Normandy, not one building in Gaza would be standing today.
I don’t think the Geneva Convection precludes counterbattery fire, and if Israel employed from day one, this would have been over long ago.
Mush-headed nonsense.
You must be awfully bored and lonely to argue such nonsense —
Then you’re calling Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the IDF, the Israeli Ambassadors, and government mush-headed because they’re arguing strongly against these false accusations against them ... even today in a Press Conference given today by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
I’m not the one who said to level Gaza ... :-) ...
“Level it”
I’ll second that emotion.
You should change your screen name to “Minny Minutiae”.
Don’t complain to me about what you said ...
During the 2006 conflict in Lebanon, the Hezbollah fighters used the RGG-29 against Israeli armor. They were sent from Iran through Syria. The weapon has a tandem warhead and did put a few Merkavs out of the fight. I can only imagine what a weapon like that would to to a lightly armored APC.
Baloney.
Then you need to read up and get educated ... see the following post and article ...
Israel ambassador to U.S. Jews: Hamas winning war of public opinion
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3181017/posts
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/.premium-1.605502
NEW YORK — Ambassador Ron Dermer, Israel’s chief diplomatic representative in the U.S., asked some 700 American Jews on a conference call this week for their help shifting the messaging on Israel. Israel is being routinely portrayed in both conventional and social media as an angry, well-armed giant leaving many innocent victims in its wake during the current crisis with Hamas, Dermer said.
The call was organized by the Jewish Federations of North America, which this week sent federation leaders to visit targeted towns in Israel, and the Jewish Council for Public Affairs. Dermer told his audience that Hamas may be winning the war over public opinion, as Israel is vilified for the civilian casualties its bombs cause in Gaza, while Hamas is not being blamed for instructing Palestinians to stay in their homes – even when they have been warned by the IDF that the locations will be bombed imminently.
“Hamas is putting its missile batteries and command centers next to schools and hospitals. That is a major war crime. While we are doing everything possible to keep civilians out of harms way, Hamas is trying to put their people into harms way. Gaza’s interior minister said people should ignore warnings and go back into their homes. We are taking action to minimize to the greatest extent possible number of civilian casualties, they are doing everything to maximize it.”
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We need to make ABSOLUTELY CLEAR when we talk about and support Israel, that it is NOT engaging in a GENOCIDAL CAMPAIGN against the Palestinian civilians - but that it’s HAMAS who is.
We must be STRONGLY EMPHATIC that Israel does NOT COMMIT WAR CRIMES against Palestinian civilians and explain the ways that Israel goes about avoiding collateral damage, while strongly attacking Hamas and its missiles that are flying into Israel.
If you believe that Israel should commit war crimes and engage in a GENOCIDAL CAMPAIGN against Palestinians — then just SHUT UP! ... because you’re doing Israel no favor with your genocidal talk!
Israel PR - We Need Your Help!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3180285/posts
http://joelleyden.blogspot.com/2014/07/israel-pr-we-need-your-help.html
Jerusalem -— July 14, 2014 ... I have worked in Jewish PR and public affairs since the 1980’s. Have worked directly for and with the Israeli government since the 1990’s.
There’s very little that I have not seen.
Today, Israel is engaged in defending herself once again from Islamic Jihad. It’s a war of bullets and words.
The war of words define public opinion and Israel can do much better.
Many will say that Israel’s PR is weak, ineffective and just plain bad.
I totally disagree.
This may have been the case before Internet arrived. Because of this cheap and inexpensive medium - Israel is making progress, but we are not quite there.
The Israeli government has very little money for PR. Our money goes first to aircraft fuel, Iron Dome and boots for our soldiers.
What little money we do have is being used as well as it can be. Although severely understaffed, the Prime Minister’s Office is functioning well under Mark Regev. But we need at least two more Mark Regev’s there.
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs has a very limited budget, but is doing truly wonderful things with the Internet.
They are also able to enlist the support of volunteer organizations - and this is where they truly shine.
Such non-profits as the Israel Project, StandWithUs, CAMERA, MEMRI, AIPAC and HonestReporting are getting the messages out.
We must also take our hats off to Ambassador Ron Dermer, who is doing an outstanding job. And to UN Ambassador Ron Prosor who is doing all he can with the limited resources he has.
Israeli basketball legend Tal Brody, serving as a good will ambassador, is burning up his keyboard.
And Consul General of Israel, Ido Aharoni is hitting both local and national TV / radio in the US.
And then we have the Israel Defense Forces. Truly a great, potent job they are doing online. Thank you Avital Leibovich for creating the infrastructure and Peter Lerner for using it so well! But they can only go so far and do so much being a governmental organization.
This morning I watched CNN with pride as they took on a Palestinian leader in the US.
CNN was armed with our soundbytes: “Israel uses missile defense systems to defend it’s civilians, Hamas uses civilians to defend their missiles.”
And then we have some of the Israeli media such as The Jerusalem Post and Times of Israel. They sparkle. Under the leadership of Steve Lindy and David Horovitz, our messages do get out. Then we have Haaretz. Not really quite sure which nation they represent. Not quite sure they know either.
And many thanks to William Daroff of the North American Jewish Federations.
I don’t think Daroff sleeps as my Facebook and Twitter feed has more of him than Victoria Secrets sales!
We need your help.
We need your help to reach the global Christian and Muslim populations.
We are almost on mark in reaching our Christian brothers, but as for the Muslims - our PR is a complete failure.
The majority of Muslims around the world are brainwashed against Israel and the Jews. But that does not mean they do not want peace. And there are many moderate Muslims out there who will help us create a bridge.
Israel is not at war with Islam. We are not at war with the Muslims.
We are at war with Islamic Jihad and Hamas.
These are political, terrorist groups, not religions. When you smear a Muslim, you are no different than those who smeared Jews before and during the Holocaust.
Don’t do it!
Target Hamas and Islamic Jihad - not all Muslims. If you continue to target all Muslims we risk alienating ourselves from the moderates, really good people who ask me sincerely what is going on. As long as we can communicate and get the facts out to Muslims, it reduces moderates joining extreme, terrorists groups.
The most important thing you can do is engage. This morning one Muslim from Indonesia joined one of my many Facebook groups.
He was one of dozens who tried to enter the room and he got past my firewall.
But that worked out OK.
His opening comment was: “Fuck Israel, I am Muslim.” My knee jerk reaction was to delete the comment and ban him.
But instead, I thought, this guy is part of the global, brainwashed Muslim crowd.
Try to engage. And I did. He went from blindly attacking Israel to listening to what we have to say. And that’s where we need PR and our public affairs.
Both the media and global journalists need to know that we are not at war with Gaza or “Palestine” - we are at war with Hamas, a political group funded by Iran which many Gazans are now beginning to hate.
I ask you to do three things.
1. When you hear anything biased or inaccurate on your local TV or radio news - call them! Ask for the news desk and politely correct them. Tell them Israel is not at war with Palestine (don’t even start to discuss that there is no Palestine) but is at war with Hamas, a political, terror group in Gaza. Keep your comment short - no more than ten seconds. They will listen to you and most often change how they present the local news. They don’t want to lose market share and advertisers.
2. Email your local TV and newspaper’s news desk the Red Alert app stating that this will place them in the know regarding real time violence between Israel and Hamas. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/red-alert-israel/id873642097?mt=8
3. ENGAGE Muslims online.
Take our speaking points from the MFA and the IDF and place them on Christian, Arab and UN Facebook pages. Engage beyond the converted.
When Muslims attack, ask them why? Engage them and tell them the truth that Israel wants peace. Educate them.
Use examples of Israeli Muslim Arabs who support democracy and Israel.
Lastly, don’t give up.
You, our volunteers, are the ones who will make the ultimate impact.
You, the volunteer, is the one who will defend my children and the children of all Jews in a wonderful, magical place called Israel.
And if you do your job successfully, you will be defending Jews beyond the borders of Israel.
Spam is no more convincing than baloney.
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