[HiTech RedNeck]

There’s nothing wrong with spiritual “paternalism.” God has the right to dictate what form the love takes... but my point is that it is 24K genuine, and that people also tend to vastly UNDERestimate grace.

The problem is when earthly governments proudly step up and pretend to being those comprehensive paternal factors. They can’t be. Never could, never will. The attempt to do so, in fact, defines liberalism quite well!

[Objective Scrutator]

We are anti-abortion because we know that life begins at conception, but this argument makes a specific appeal to Christianity. The secular humanist religion believes that life increases in worth based on how many cells it has and how well its nervous system is developed _ should we respect that belief? Yes, abortion is an extreme case, but the point is that we shouldn't have knee-jerk reactions against paternalism.

Do you think that Lawrence v. Texas was a reasonably decided court case? A community which wishes to impose anti-sodomy laws should be allowed to do so, as the argument is majoritarian and, more importantly, moral. The Bible unequivocally advocates that we keep the laws of the Old Testament, and is also unequivocal in stating that those are laws to be enforced, especially since those laws are specific to the point that misinterpretation is idiocy or deceit. Any changes to the laws from the OT are specifically mentioned in the NT.