“Have we got a college?
Have we got a football team?
Well, we can’t afford both.
Tomorrow we start tearing down the college!”
Groucho Marx
Well at least we know who is running our Colleges and Universities now. Come to think of it, Groucho Marx would probably be an improvement over the fools in charge now.
Academia continues its War On Women.
The Political Party in charge of NY state enables this.
Now if it had been a white non-athlete, and he had merely talked to her with her not being attracted to him, then he would have been expelled immediately.
Maybe I missed it, but I didn’t notice any mention of the police having been called.
Why women need to carry a gun.
txt messages, pictures and video and the semen were “nothing to work with”??
If that had been my daughter there would be a half-dozen football players with broken kneecaps, if they lived.
What has NOW said about this?
I too have never understood why these felonies are adjudicated by the schools and not the police. This is a horrible crime, at least as it’s alleged to have happened, and how on earth does it go completely unpunished?
No wonder the military has the same if not worse problems.
The Bryant case in CO gave the green light to that kind of corruption, and oddly, rapes by college athletes very often include the worse and more damaging crime of sodomy.
This is why young women should be raised to defend themselves. Defense is both passive and active. For example, do not ever go to a fraternity party, because they are inherently unsafe, even if a group of women go together.
Do not drink a drink unless you have had control over it from the start. If you do not have it in your hand and under observation at any time, get a new drink.
If you feel threatened with sexual assault, it is imperative that you discreetly draw a knife and slash your attacker. Nothing quite says “No!” like a foot long gash that is bleeding profusely.
What I don’t get is why this crap is handled by the school. Rape is a felony. Call the cops.
And Hobart football is a small D3 school. They make it sound like these are Division I powerhouse schools with millions of dollars on the line.
A little context is in order.
You can't make this stuff up.
I did not understand this in 1968, and I don’t understand it now.
My mother, and my grandmother, and all the generations of women before them, knew how to stay safe with regard to the opposite sex.
Hopefully, my daughters do, as well.
WTF????
Very disheartening to read this as I am a Hobart alum. Also read the President’s response and while I understand the frustration he has in that the reporter tended to leave out stuff he seems to miss the point. In a situation like this your processes are secondary and your response shouldn’t focus on trying to prove you did everything you could.
I read a number of the responses in the NY Times and it’s silly how stupid many of they were, particularly those who tried to blame this so-called cover-up on the need to keep making a lot of money to protect the football program.
As one poster noted, Hobart is a VERY small D3 school and the football program generates very little revenue since most of the attending fans are students, who pay little or nothing to go to the games. The team COSTS money, it does not contribute cash flow to the school’s treasury.
The author actually tried to insinuate that the football team is the most popular on campus, which is way off base since the lacrosse program is where the school gets it’s biggest PR impact, having been high-profile for decades.
I will say that in my day (class of ‘80), a few lacrosse players were protected, but from fighting and vandalism, not rape (and ironically they were also Kappa Sigma brothers, so just maybe that fraternity leadership needs to take a look at itself too). And my son goes to school in Tallahassee so the the Winston case is also fresh in my mind. We all know that top athletes tend to get special treatment in high school and college and it’s true that schools need to change their thinking on that.
One thing I noted was that it took the author great effort to note that the first person that tried to intervene was a MALE student friend of the young woman, but that almost comes out grudgingly, as if that would hurt the crusade they were on.
Of course, nowhere in the author’s paradigm does it seem that the young woman should be at least scolded for allowing herself to drink twice the amount of legal driving limits. While keeping yourself under control is no guarantee you won’t become a victim it certainly doesn’t hurt your chances either. With all the efforts that academia has put into so-called anti-rape programs it still comes down to the ability of individuals to not put themselves in a position to be taken advantage of, either physically of mentally. This woman clearly had a self-esteem issue, which she actually admits early in the article by indicating that she wasn’t thin, blonde and wearing expensive clothing.
As for the football players . . . less said the better. Even if consensual you DON’T TAKE ADVANTAGE of a DRUNK WOMAN.
PERIOD.
If you do you have some really low self-esteem of your own and you have no idea of what it truly is to be a man.