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Sen. Chuck Schumer’s religious test
nypost.com ^ | 7/12/14

Posted on 07/12/2014 5:26:18 AM PDT by cotton1706

Chuck Schumer has an odd view of the First Amendment.

If on the basis of religious conviction you refuse to pay for something Schumer wants you to pay for, he believes you forfeit your right to have a business.

Never mind that the Supreme Court just ruled the opposite in the Hobby Lobby case. At a press conference announcing a new bill designed to change the law that was the basis of that ruling, he put it this way:

“We wouldn’t tell the owners of Hobby Lobby to convert to a different religion or disobey their religion,” said Schumer. “But we don’t say that they have to open a company and go sell toys or hobby kits.” Businesses have no religious freedom, he said, because their “purpose is to profit from the open market.”

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand was blunter still: “Congress must make it clear that businesses aren’t people and do not have the same rights people have.”

By that twisted logic, a family-owned kosher or halal butcher shop would have no religious grounds to challenge a law — similar to ones already enacted in Europe — that bars kosher slaughter.

Nor could those same butchers forbid an employee or customer from bringing non-kosher or non-halal food into their stores, because that would constitute imposing their beliefs.

The Constitution forbids a religious test for public office. Surely the men who drafted these protections would be aghast to see a United States senator suggesting the federal government impose one for running a business.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hobbylobby; schumer
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To: cotton1706

What if the name of the business was Jihaddi Lobbi?


21 posted on 07/12/2014 6:02:50 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: laweeks

the ultimate contradiction.


22 posted on 07/12/2014 6:09:40 AM PDT by brivette
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To: cotton1706

Opening July 18, 2014. This is on the must watch list.

23 posted on 07/12/2014 6:12:06 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: cotton1706

You left out the latest one: Homosexuality

To be followed soon by paedophilia, incest, bestiality . . .


24 posted on 07/12/2014 6:13:11 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician. Some assembly required.)
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To: cotton1706
Gillibrand thinks a business does not have the same rights, because it is not a person.

OK then if she is correct on that front, then how should those who own a business file their taxes? Oh that's right, small business owners file taxes as individuals!

Wait, aren't individuals PERSONS??

Can't have it both ways.

25 posted on 07/12/2014 6:15:06 AM PDT by Florida native
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To: ealgeone

If I watch the little white square, will it open up into a picture on July 18?


26 posted on 07/12/2014 6:15:07 AM PDT by BykrBayb (World Lung Cancer Day {WLCD} Aug 1 https://facebook.com/events/309580722464921 ~ Þ)
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To: unread

When I go into the “open market” to sell my labor to the highest bidder, I’m doing essentially what every business is doing, according to Schumer. Do I thus forfeit my rights?


27 posted on 07/12/2014 6:17:32 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Moorings

The courts have held, again and again, that a corporation functions under the law as a person. Schumer is wrong as a matter of established law.
The goal of this bit of kubuki theater is not to pass legislation. It is to insure the anticapitalist base of the DP that they are still loved.


28 posted on 07/12/2014 6:17:52 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Don’t be surprised if Schumer - and American courts - answer ‘yes’ in the very near future. Who’s going to stop them?


29 posted on 07/12/2014 6:20:49 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: cotton1706

So by this logic a Kosher restaurant can be forced to serve pork chops because,after all,it was set up to make a profit in the open market.


30 posted on 07/12/2014 6:22:03 AM PDT by SayNoToDems (Will the dancing Hitlers please wait in the wings? We're only seeing singing Hitlers.)
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To: cotton1706
“But we don’t say that they have to open a company and go sell toys or hobby kits.”

Chucky conveniently leaves out the fact that Hobby Lobby has been in business for years and only since Obamacare did government try to specify every detail of what sort of health insurance employers had to provide.

31 posted on 07/12/2014 6:24:31 AM PDT by Will88
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To: laweeks
This asshat is a Jew....

Ten bucks says that he's an atheist Jew,a Jew who sees the word as being an ethnic,rather than a religious,identifier.Check it out....many,many,*many* of the people in this country who identify themselves as a "Jew" or "Jewish" will freely tell you that they're atheist if you ask them.

32 posted on 07/12/2014 6:25:33 AM PDT by SayNoToDems (Will the dancing Hitlers please wait in the wings? We're only seeing singing Hitlers.)
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To: cotton1706

Schmuckie is a fascist. Get a rope.


33 posted on 07/12/2014 6:26:43 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Rummyfan

How does UpChuckie feel about “No shirt, no shoes, no sale.”


34 posted on 07/12/2014 6:27:51 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: realcleanguy

No. No. No. You don’t understand. The Democrats don’t mind if you have religion. You just can’t practice it in any meaningful way outside of your church or your private residence. If you open a business, for example, that’s the public sphere, and the constitution clearly states Congress can make laws regulating and/or prohibiting religion in public. It’s right there in the US Constitution. Look it up!

ESA (EXTREME Sarcasm Alert!)


35 posted on 07/12/2014 6:29:06 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: cotton1706

What part of “Congress shall make no law” do you not understand, Chuckie?


36 posted on 07/12/2014 6:29:25 AM PDT by magellan
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To: cotton1706
National Socialism by any other name is still National Socialism. NAZI

Ironic thin is Schumer is Jewish (I think)

37 posted on 07/12/2014 6:29:28 AM PDT by Tupelo
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To: cotton1706
. . . because their “purpose is to profit from the open market.”

The concept of "open market", by its nature, involves a "willing buyer" and a "willing seller". There are multitudes of reasons a normally "willing seller" chooses to become "unwilling". A bunch of commies have no standing to define the term "open market". That is one of the fundamental reasons our economy is, and has been, in the crapper for so long . . . their economic theory is destructive garbage.

38 posted on 07/12/2014 6:29:57 AM PDT by RatRipper (No need to rob others; democRATS will steal and share a tiny bit with you.)
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To: sauropod

“Isn’t Congress infringing on the owners’ property rights?”

Don’t try appealing to reason. With Democrats, up is down and down is up. I seriously mean it. They seem to speak the same language as real Americans, but the words have entirely different meanings. For example, freedom means government gets to control everything you do if you dare open a business.


39 posted on 07/12/2014 6:31:33 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: SayNoToDems

Schmuckie is well-known as a member of New York City’s largest Reform Synagogue, and regularly attends.

I have never heard of him claiming to be atheist or even agnostic.

He certainly seems to represent the views of his voters. There’s no deception there.


40 posted on 07/12/2014 6:35:45 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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