Oh come on Baby, I won't hurt you next time, I am sure you can change me if you love me enough to vote for me in November.
Posted on 07/07/2014 2:27:47 PM PDT by TigerTown
GETTYSBURG, PA – One of the hottest-selling t-shirts at souvenir shops outside Gettysburg proclaims, “If at first you don’t secede, try, try again.”
While the pun is popular among Civil War re-enactors at the historic battlefield, the message also has growing appeal in contemporary politics, especially among fractious Republicans.
On both the Right and the Left, activists are convinced that the Republican Party is not pure enough on their issues, and perhaps it is time to break away and create a new political organization to shake up the system.
“It's hopeless; Republicans are as much at fault as Democrats for the debt bomb rocketing towards $20 billion, and we wouldn't be stuck with Obamacare if it weren't for [Chief Justice John] Roberts, a George W. [Bush] appointee,” fumed a conservative congressional staffer at a Fourth of July barbecue in suburban Washington, D.C.
“The Tea Party needs to cut loose from the establishment that's holding back real reform and make a fresh start,” the staffer said...
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...
Any allegience I had to the GOP was hanging by the merest thread. Then came Mississippi. They can take the scare tactics and shove ‘em. I’ve held my nose and eaten the sh!t sandwich for the last time.
And I suspect I’m only one of hundreds of thousands.
LOLOLOL! Pure. What a joke.
The republicans can't manage to make sure their candidates match the party platform.
Purity isn't required. Matching the party platform (no abortion, pro-2nd amendment, no socialized medicine, NO AMNESTY, and smaller government) would be enough.
/johnny
Oh come on Baby, I won't hurt you next time, I am sure you can change me if you love me enough to vote for me in November.
MS proved beyond a reasonable doubt that reforming the GOP from within IS FOLLY and an impossibility.
It’s as stupid as the insisted belief that if the Colonists petitioned, prostrated and ‘worked within the system of Parliament” that their redress of grievances would be heard and settled.
Separation and Independence are the ONLY options when an institution is thus so corrupted as we have experienced.
Elections are moot at this point forward anyway. We have a Soviet system now.
That's upside down. The GOP can't win without conservatives, where are THEY going to go?
/johnny
Even Reagan, who got the nomination and was elected twice as president, was unable to reform the party. In fact, in order to even get backing from the solid elites, he had to name one of ‘theirs’ as his VP. Thus, we got George HW Bush. The party has been moving overtly leftward since Bush.
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The GOP needs to find common ground, but it must be common ground within the limited government parameters specified in the Constitution. I’m happy to have a debate on how rapidly FedGov should be shrunk back to its enumerated powers. What I cannot support is a debate over how quickly FedGov should expand to control every aspect of our lives (beyond the current light bulbs, toilet flush volume, size of soft drinks, whether we pay for an employee’s recreational sex and subsequent abortions, etc.).
The GOPe needs to compromise with conservatives on which unconstitutional programs and which ineffective but lawful programs will be eliminated and how quickly. The GOPe needs to compromise with conservatives on whether illegals should be deported; jailed and then deported; or jailed, fingerprinted & DNA swabbed, permanently barred from lawful reentry and from any path to citizenship, and then deported.
Liberals want huge government and libertarians want no to little government. Liberals want to take away land and close public land to the public such as Agenda 21 while libertarians want full property rights.
Have things changed that much in the last few years?
Why would anybody want to “reform” a rotten and corrupt party? The GOP power structure has sold out principle for power. They are corrupt, they are immoral, they are rotten. The entire structure is rotten.
Now, rotten is what is expected from the dems, but how do you fight rotten with rotten?
Time to raze the rotten old house and build something new...WITHOUT the corrupt PsOS that have corroded the current building.
Some don't see a difference, even though there is a great difference.
/johnny
I generally agree.
But I like the term take it over, or take control, rather than reform.
If the GOPe doesn’t want to get in the back of the bus, they’ll end up under it.
Tell that to the Elites who are using slash and burn Tactics to try to destroy Conservatives at every damned turn...
Remember Mississippi!!!!
But quitting and walking away is not the answer either.
In politics as in war, there is no substitute for winning. The loss of Cantor shows the establishment can be beat. Now we need more victories. Like the saying goes, the establishment will see the light when they feel the heat.
Oh Boy do I agree with that!
I finally convinced a good friend of mine to Go Tea. He was a lifelong Dem.
His 90 year father,on the other hand, is still a stubborn asshole. And this is a college educated scientist who witnessed the first atomic explosion.
Brilliant guy, tho in government so long he thinks the gov has all the answers. Stubborn guy.
“Tell that to the Elites who are using slash and burn Tactics to try to destroy Conservatives at every damned turn... Remember Mississippi!!!!”
I think the GOP Elites may very well get their lesson in the general. Blacks will vote for the Dem candidate same as always. And, Conservatives and TEA Party types will stay home. Thereby, Dem’s will take this seat in the general.
The GOP should fight for America not “splinter” it.
This is a different time. Something about what you get when you “lie down with dogs” comes to mind.
There is ZERO chance the GOP will be “reformed”. Why? They have all the money. What do we have? The votes. It’s like a game of chicken. As long as we keep blinking we lose.
/johnny
It’s better to focus energy on reforming from within.
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I respectfully disagree. I know people who have worked inside the GOP and let me assure you that’s not going to happen. The GOP won’t allow it.
The GOP is controlled by moneyed interests, likes big government and spending almost as much as liberals do, and does precious little to advance real conservative issues.
The GOP only pretends to be conservative; it is a fascade. The party wants our money and our votes, but not our principles. Attempting to reform the party from within in a fool’s errand IMO.
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