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1 posted on 07/07/2014 4:22:18 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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GORELICK GATE - various FR links


Gorelick's book "Destruction of Evidence"


THE OBSTRUCTION OF THE OKLAHOMA BOMBING GRAND JURY INVESTIGATION,
The Mysterious Jamie Gorelick Phone Call
By David Hoffman,Sun Sep 14 12:10:57 1997


Officials Feared Americas would discover that the Clinton Administration
Ignored
Terrorism After TWA Crash

On Aug. 22, 1996, just before the Democratic National Convention,
Ms. Gorelick oversaw a critical Justice Department meeting with the FBI.
Immediately after this meeting, as it happened,
all serious inquiry into the fate of TWA 800 came to an end.

Gorelick was instrumental in the corruption of TWA Flight 800 terrorism investigation
Did Clinton appointee corrupt Flight 800 probe?

2 posted on 07/07/2014 4:26:22 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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bfl


3 posted on 07/07/2014 4:28:11 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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From the article:

“During the course of my 42-year career as an investigator,” Hughes concludes, “the investigation of TWA Flight 800 was the only case in which I witnessed deception, lies and corruption on the parts of investigators and their management. The extraordinary measures to which the NTSB, FBI and CIA went to falsify and distort witness statements or accounts of what occurred, to alter and hide physical evidence and to mount a false public relations campaign to misinform the public, was unconscionable.”


4 posted on 07/07/2014 4:28:41 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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There is so much they are hiding.


5 posted on 07/07/2014 4:30:31 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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We’d go into shock if we knew how many times our government has contrived to totally deceive us and hide the truth - not only about things like TWA 800 and Okla City, but thousands of other things - most that we never hear of.

Of course, it’s for our own good.

And to prevent total panic and rebellion among the populace......


6 posted on 07/07/2014 4:34:19 AM PDT by Arlis
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However, do not try to assume TWA Flight 800 was brought down by a MANPAD. We forget MANPAD missiles are not effective above 10,000 feet altitude (they're designed primarily as low-altitude systems).

We have to investigate the possibility that the terrorists got their hands on the 9K33 Osa (Russian for wasp) SAM system, better known by the NATO code name SA-8 Gecko. It is possible that the terrorists jury-rigged the hardware--including the tracking and guidance radar and a single launcher in a "launch box"--so it fits in a small boat? Because the 9M33 missile used in the 9K33 SAM system is effective up to 12,000 meters (39,000 feet) altitude, such a setup could easily bring down TWA Flight 800 flying at 13,500 feet.

Due to the size of the warhead on the 9M33 missile (16 kilograms or 35.25 pounds), if such a missile impacted TWA Flight 800, the tremendous force of the explosion could explain why the fuselage was ripped in two almost immediately.

8 posted on 07/07/2014 4:35:54 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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The Oklahoma City Bombing and TWA 800 were terrorist strikes against the US - and Clinton didn’t want to get involved in a war again with the Middle East, even though they were at war with us, and decided to bury it or blame it on something else...

Clinton is a coward and non-patriot to the US - and so is his alcoholic wife!

...and we wonder why terrorist strikes increased and culminated on 9/11...all thanks to “drop my pants Bill” Clinton...


10 posted on 07/07/2014 4:40:06 AM PDT by BCW (Amazon Books: "Babylon's Covert War" - the Iraq conflict explained in detail - by JH White)
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From 2000-2008, no Clinton in the WH, and no Obama.

So why no investigation then?

I’m not arguing against this piece. I think it is correct. TWA 800 should be re-investigated.

What I’m saying is, if there was a cover-up, why was there no un-cover-up during 2000-2008?

There are only 3 possible answers:
1. There was no cover-up and this is all conspiracy-theory fantasy.
2. Bush was as stupid as the liberals say he was.
3. Bush was as evil as some conservatives contend he was.

I know I’m going to get flamed for this, but seriously, if there are big questions about what the government did in 1996 under Clinton, then those questions only get bigger if left completely unanswered or even unasked under Bush.


12 posted on 07/07/2014 4:42:49 AM PDT by samtheman
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I live near the catastrophe. 100s of my Long Island neighbors witnessed it. Kennedy presidential press secretary Pierre Salinger had first hand knowledge from French secret services that the plane was shot down. Whether by terrorist or by a government accidental missile firing, a projectile brought it down.
This is a Klinton Koverup. And Jim Kallstom be damned


13 posted on 07/07/2014 4:43:27 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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There were dozens of reliable witnesses to what appears to be a missile rising up towards TWA 800.

One other factor for me in this was the single-minded focus of the government investigation and prosecution of the first attack on the the World Trade Center. That is that very early on, it was determined to treat it as a “crime” rather than the act of Islamic war that it was.

For me, TWA 800 shared that similarity. It has all the hallmarks of “conclusion first”, and an investigation that was only allowed to support that conclusion. That conclusion was driven not be justice or attention to national defense or to finding truth, but by the need to protect the “optics” of the Clinton presidency.

Seeing the willingness of the federal investigative and enforcement apparatus to comply with such intrusion into fact-finding is just yet one more proof how corrupted they and their running dog lackies in the media are. Compare the treatment of the few TWA 800 whistleblowers by the media with the media’s treatment of Edward Snowden. Makes me sick.


14 posted on 07/07/2014 4:45:53 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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The day this happened F.B.I. agent in charge Kalstrom stated on national T.V. while being interviewed said, “If the public knew what really happened here”.
Caught himself then changed the subject.
Next day he was spouting the party line of lies and bull shit.
The F.B.I. lies, big gubmint LIES.


16 posted on 07/07/2014 4:46:26 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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This occurred July 17, 1996, four months before President Clinton's bid for re-election.

This cover-up is the the same modus operandi as Benghazi.

18 posted on 07/07/2014 4:47:05 AM PDT by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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I highly recommend the James Sanders book “The Downing of Flight 800”. The cover up of what happened to this plane is a classic Clinton political operation, and it is quite similar to Benghazi.

Sanders provides plenty of evidence that this was an accidental shooting during the testing of a new missile defense system. In addition to Bill Clinton’s re-election there was a great deal of military-industrial complex money at stake.

The lack of action from W. Bush’s administration speaks for itself.

What’s most disturbing about Sanders book is how easily the government was able to disseminate ridiculous theories about static electricity and exploding gas-tanks with the help of a compliant media.


35 posted on 07/07/2014 5:04:23 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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Does anyone here really think with the current admin. that if this case were reopened by Congress it would get a fair and thorough investigation?


38 posted on 07/07/2014 5:23:14 AM PDT by Lake Living
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Am I (and G. Gordon Liddy) the only one(s) who think the FBI has been in a slow politically influenced downhill spiral ever since J. Edgar Hoover died?
39 posted on 07/07/2014 5:24:39 AM PDT by Tupelo
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Why Congress Must Reopen the TWA 800 Investigation

It was a cover-up by comrade klinton and we can't even get Boehner out of the bars long enough to face the current problems, so there's no chance they'll bring up something this old. Besides The Weeper doesn't want to join the others on Bubba's "kill list".

41 posted on 07/07/2014 5:29:34 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle?" - Patrick Henry, 1775)
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When you situate a Navy missile test range along a Commercial flight corridor, bad things happen.

They didn’t want to deal with the specter of an accidental Military shoot down.


42 posted on 07/07/2014 5:30:22 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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No opinion much less a clue as to “how” Flt. 800 went in.
My view of government credibility in conducting an investigation was destroyed when the CIA produced video re-creation of the crash was released. It simply went against common sense to put forth that an aircraft could climb in the manner illustrated in defiance of the nose section being nothing more than an open hole.


51 posted on 07/07/2014 5:45:04 AM PDT by Huaynero
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The United States does not have a givernment..

They have a SHADOW Giverment..

The republicans and democrats are the good guy, bad guy GAMBIT..


We don’t need a third party.. WE NEED A GOVERNMENT..


59 posted on 07/07/2014 6:47:39 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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Bttt.

5.56mm

64 posted on 07/07/2014 7:54:27 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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