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STEYN: 'WE ARE ENTERING A POST-AMERICAN WORLD'
Breitbart TV ^ | July 4, 2014

Posted on 07/04/2014 11:27:20 AM PDT by Hojczyk

HEWITT: Mike O’Hanlon said this is common sense. Victor Davis Hanson said this reflects the evaporation of American power in the world, and it’s not going to be just Japan. It’s going to be everybody running to get their own guns. What do you think, Mark Steyn?

STEYN: Yes, I tend to agree with that, and Victor is a believer in the American umbrella, which is the situation that’s prevailed since the Second World War, where some of the wealthiest countries in the world like Japan or like Germany were able to not, in a sense, put up the money for their own defense, because America, the American umbrella was over them. Obama, if you learn anything from the last six years, it’s that we are entering the post-American world. And whether you’re an enemy of the United States or an ally of the United States, you’ve got to adjust to that. And I entirely understand why the Japanese would conclude, as the Polish foreign minister concluded a couple of weeks ago, that when it comes to it, the Americans are not going to be there for them. The Royal Australian Navy a couple of years ago held exercises with the Chinese, joint exercises. And I said to a naval officer down there that I know, I said well, didn’t you guys all find that a bit odd? And he said well, this is the reality.

When America withdraws from the Pacific, Japan and Indonesia and Australia and China are all still going to be there, and we’re going to have to deal with the new reality as best we can. Japan is dealing with the post-American world. Poland is. Australia is. Singapore is. That is simply a reality of five years of Obama foreign policy.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: marksteyn; steyn
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To: Oatka

No one is watching dinesh’s movie ??!!

It was Colin Powell

Of course it’s a good comeback. We don’t do comebacks but mows as good a time as any to quit whining, get smart on our founding documents know the bios of our leaders, and proud immigrants and quit being ashamed

We are intimidated by their confidence. We need to just get our own


21 posted on 07/04/2014 12:33:09 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Hojczyk

I don’t think it is necessarily an entirely bad thing. America shouldn’t have to spend more than the rest of the world combined on defence. America’s allies should step up and match America’s per capita spending on defence, not only because it isn’t fair for the Americans to pick up all the slack, but because, as the Obama period has made very clear, the US is only ever an election away from becoming a very unreliable ally...


22 posted on 07/04/2014 12:44:17 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: Hojczyk

China for the first time to participate in the Khaan Quest 2014 multinational peacekeeping exercises in Mongolia

http://www.infomongolia.com/ct/ci/7716

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The Marines were there and the Alaskan National Guard.


23 posted on 07/04/2014 1:33:35 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: GOPJ
Agree.

They remind me of O'Brien (party Dem) and Parsons (naive liberal) from the novel 1984.

24 posted on 07/04/2014 1:35:11 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: The Working Man
I am glad to be in a position that I don’t have to deal with the PC BS anymore. You need an exorcism.
25 posted on 07/04/2014 1:42:26 PM PDT by x_plus_one
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To: Hojczyk

We don’t need an “American world,” but our country and leadership should be much more American in culture and custom than it has become.


26 posted on 07/04/2014 2:51:25 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: JLS

Steyn ping.


27 posted on 07/04/2014 4:08:54 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Hojczyk

I just disagree with the explanation of why obama won—that Americans want a nanny state. The race was Rommeys to lose; remember his lackluster performance during the last debate, where he started praising Obama? If he would have gone after Obama the way Obama went after him, he would have won. He seemed paralyzed. Obama would lie, and he would leave the lie unchallenged.


28 posted on 07/04/2014 7:16:27 PM PDT by odawg
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To: huldah1776
"Khaan Quest"

Sorry, had to be done.

29 posted on 07/04/2014 7:23:27 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: The Working Man
....”our form of government”....

It's the attempts to impose this on other cultures, which cannot adjust their culture to our way of thinking.

It's notable that the mindset of nations we've attempted this with believes ,still, that whoever “wins” has his way.....compromising...give and take is not in their mindset at all. Rather compromise is seen as weakness by many where they understand strength is most significant over all.

Ukraine is a good example as their politicians have yet to understand what democracy is.....thus their Parliament ends up in fist fights all the time. I'll also say that is why it's impossible for Obama to compromise or get Congress to work together....he has the winner takes all mindset that he is King and Congress is suppose to support him.

30 posted on 07/04/2014 7:48:12 PM PDT by caww
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To: PLMerite

LOL Love Kirk. Love my Marine who loves StarTrek, thanks.


31 posted on 07/05/2014 9:31:24 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: TheOldLady; Rummyfan; Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; ...

Mark Steyn ping.

Freepmail me, if you want on or off the Mark Steyn ping list.

Thanks for the ping Slings and Arrows.


32 posted on 07/05/2014 9:13:31 PM PDT by JLS
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To: Jim Robinson
Yup. We’re going back to pre-WWII complacency. And I’m afraid the results will be the same.

The death toll will be much higher this time.

33 posted on 07/05/2014 11:30:37 PM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: The Working Man
That means in the long run we should have encouraged change we could live with and approve rather than try impose our own ways of doing things on nations around the globe.

I agree about not "imposing" our own ways, but I have to hesitate as well, because, of course, the rest of the nations around the globe tend to have "ways of doing things" which invariably mean little or no freedom for their people.

Consequently, America's prosperity, opportunity, and military power often engender misplaced jealousy, demonization, and even hysterical fear in other nations and their peoples.

Regardless, it's obvious to me that when Freedom doesn't flourish around the world, problems will arise which eventually impact America.

It seems like we're damned if we do, and damned if we don't, but it's certainly true that the world's peoples' profound need for freedom, opportunity, and security cannot be met simply by depending on the American "umbrella".

The people of the world are going to have to step up, each in their respective countries, see to their OWN security, and eventually seize the Freedom and Opportunity which Americans take for granted as their birthright.

Change we can live with? We still need that here in America, and God knows the rest of the world has a lot of catching up to do. America is an imperfect beacon of light on a distant hill, but it still outshines all others.

34 posted on 07/06/2014 12:08:10 AM PDT by sargon
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To: Hojczyk
Victor Davis Hansen is a brillian author and a wonderful classicist. His book on the Peloponesian War is great. Unfortunately, he did not learn a principal less from it. Athens throughout that war was mistress of the Aegean. Her power was uncontestable. Then she chose to execute the Syracuse adventure, destroyed her fleet in the paradigmatic example of strategic overreach. For that act of hubris she fell from grace and has never amounted to anything since.

Hansen, instead of cheerleading the U.S. Iraqi adventure should have questioned it with all his heart and soul. Controlling land on the other side of the world was beyond our strategic reach and it has set the stage for evertying that has happened since.

Rule of law is coming down now, here, under Obama, because of what George Bush did then, there, in that distant place.

If you read Dinesh D'Souza, you discover that the great gift the British Empire extended was rule of law under British Common Law. We have now abandoned rule of law here, and not just from the left. Common law took a millenia to evolve, from Viking law, Anglo Saxon law and Norman feudal law. It is the received wisdom of the ages that gave us the industrial revolution and all the gifts since. And if you read Scalia, you will discover that as great a jurist as he is, he is no friend of the common law either, bowing to the whims of the state over the centuries of accrued human wisdom.

35 posted on 07/08/2014 6:21:09 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: sargon
the rest of the nations around the globe tend to have "ways of doing things" which invariably mean little or no freedom for their people.

What? Japan, Canada, Europe including now Eastern Europe, Australia, NZ, much of SE Asia, and even Brazil, Chile and Argentina. I am no fan of Putin, but even Putin's Russia is no soviet union if we would just stop standing with our noses hanging over the Russian boarder. The democtratic nations have total control of the oceans and trade routes around the world. The crisis was all created by Bush and Cheney with their unrealistic goals on the one hand, and Obama with his all too realistic if un-American and un-democratic goals on the other.

36 posted on 07/08/2014 6:32:06 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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