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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m with you, 2ndDivisionVet. There are definitely different kinds of government payments, but some people put all the benefits into one basket. That gives them the ability to say over 50% receive benefits. While that is a terribly high percentage, it doesn’t reveal the different kinds of benefits.

Military veterans, for example, earn their benefits by serving the country. The “benefits” are payment for service rendered. Then you have people who receive Social Security benefits after contributing to the program for decades. I do not equate the above beneficiaries with those who receive handouts simply for being born or sneaking into the country. There are even some Social Security payouts to people who have never contributed to the program. Again, that is a completely different matter than those Americans who contributed for decades and now deserve what was promised.


9 posted on 07/04/2014 12:27:37 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: CitizenUSA

I have the same question about SS “benefits”. As I see it, for those who have paid into the system most of their adult working lives, it is an account payable for government. It is not a government benefit.


11 posted on 07/04/2014 12:47:57 AM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: CitizenUSA

And as Jim points out above, you can opt out from receiving SS but not from paying.
So yeah, a lot different.


43 posted on 07/04/2014 4:03:57 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: CitizenUSA
some people put all the benefits into one basket. That gives them the ability to say over 50% receive benefits. While that is a terribly high percentage, it doesn’t reveal the different kinds of benefits.

Nothing changes the cold, hard fact that there are more people receiving government checks than there are people paying into the money pot. Describing some government payment checks as more acceptable than others does not change simple arithmetic.

The current situation with more people receiving money than paying into funding is unsustainable.

46 posted on 07/04/2014 4:21:44 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: CitizenUSA; 2ndDivisionVet

“I’m with you, 2ndDivisionVet.”

I’ll second that...

I’ve been working my whole life since going into the military at 17. I’ve put together a sizable nest egg for my retirement, plus I get medical from the company I worked for before I retired.

But guess what? I was forced on to medicare when I retired. It was a condition of my employers health insurance. The way it is set up, I had no choice.


57 posted on 07/04/2014 4:59:18 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: CitizenUSA; 2ndDivisionVet

Amen to both of you!
Why don’t they at least differentiate between earned and unearned benefits? There is a big difference between the earned and “you owe me” mindsets!
If you work, you deserve compensation (benefit) for your work. Others may be eligible for some sort of charity. However, charity isn’t an earned compensation (benefit). It is a voluntary function not a government mandate. Is such a view unChristian? No! Although sharing and charity were a characteristic of even the earliest Christians communities, one was expected to contribute or asked to move on. And let us not forget that there is a big difference between those who cannot and those who will not.


61 posted on 07/04/2014 5:19:54 AM PDT by Nuocmam
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To: CitizenUSA
While that is a terribly high percentage, it doesn’t reveal the different kinds of benefits.

It points out too many American dollars filter through the federal inefficient and sticky fingers.

74 posted on 07/04/2014 6:36:28 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: CitizenUSA; 2ndDivisionVet
Bump to both of you!

From the article:

I paid into Social Security for 50 years. And, yes, I expect to get something in return.

More from the article:

If you opened a savings account when you were young and faithfully deposited money week after week, when you got to the point to start making withdawals, wouldn't you be protective of your investment? Yes, I know SS is not a savings account, but the analogy still applies.
87 posted on 07/04/2014 7:58:52 AM PDT by upchuck (Everyday, Joe Wilson becomes more correct!)
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