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To: bigbob; Norm Lenhart; Finny; RitaOK; Diogenes; Impy; BillyBoy; Dr. Sivana
Bigbob:

We must accept that we are facing a somewhat familiar but actually unprecedented level of unacceptable actions and attitudes by the elitist scum that control the GOP.

This behavior of Cantor's power-hungry corrupt love slaves is just the latest misbehavior. We also have REMEMBER MISSISSIPPI. Previously in Virginia, the commonwealth-wide scum sold Ken Cuccinelli out because Cuccinelli and not their preferred brain-dead elitist Lt. Governor Bolling was nominated for Governor. Bolling had also been Romney's campaign chair in Virginia (naturally!). Meanwhile the Republican National Committee is busily changing the party rules to guarantee another elitist chosen scum candidate for POTUS to throw the next election to Hillary Clinton lest the GOP base (the normal American people) might, Dewey forbid, have a candidate worth voting for.

Retired scum like former Senator John (Liz Taylor's 8th or 10th "husband" and Oliver North's enemy) Warner and defeated scum like Richard Lugar are going around endorsing the likes of Sam Nunn's Demonrat daughter against the winner of the GOP's Georgia runoff.

So, the conclusion we must accept based on that evidence and more is that what has been the Republican Party has now attained the status of an internal civil war. This is not good-natured rivalry but a fight to the political death between opposites and enemies.

If we are serious, we must either drive the money obsessive elitists and their unprincipled minions from the GOP OR leave the GOP and form a new party. I find the latter a more attractive alternative but understand that it is not more attractive to many here who have spent their lives as I have in the GOP. I refused to vote for Romney and I'm not going back. To get my vote, they will have to earn it by nominating candidates worth voting for.

23 posted on 06/27/2014 1:13:44 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: BlackElk; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj

1912, democrats won 290 House seats (2/3s exactly) with 43% of the total votes because of the split between the GOP and TR’s progressives, Woodrow Wilson won the White House with a huge EC majority despite just 42% of the popular vote. We could not survive a democrat supermajority Congress today.

As for Brat, that seat is safe, I am not worried about the rat candidate’s chances, so the allegations made in this blog don’t trouble me. I’m sure Brat will get many donations from across the country to fund his campaign.


25 posted on 06/27/2014 1:31:28 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: BlackElk
If we are serious, we must either drive the money obsessive elitists and their unprincipled minions from the GOP OR leave the GOP and form a new party. I find the latter a more attractive alternative but understand that it is not more attractive to many here who have spent their lives as I have in the GOP.

It will have to be the former. Too many states have had one hundred years to calcify the status quo, making a new second party next to impossible (though the the SCOTUS ruling on campaign finance MIGHT provide a way around that, but with its own risks.) Changing the state laws would be hard as the GOP-E is satisfied with well-fed drone status, and the Dems LOVE playing Harlem Globetrotters (only with evil incarnations of Curly and Meadowlark Lemon) versus the GOP-E's Washington Generals.
26 posted on 06/27/2014 1:34:06 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you're litigating against nuns, you've probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: BlackElk; All
If we are serious, we must either drive the money obsessive elitists and their unprincipled minions from the GOP OR leave the GOP and form a new party. I find the latter a more attractive alternative but understand that it is not more attractive to many here who have spent their lives as I have in the GOP. I refused to vote for Romney and I'm not going back. To get my vote, they will have to earn it by nominating candidates worth voting for.

I would MUCH MUCH prefer that conservatives reclaim the Republican party. I have been a Republican since I first registered to vote back in 1976! But here's the thing -- not I nor anyone else gets to choose which is the better path. We only get to figure out how to adapt to survive. It is looking very much like the ONLY way to survive will be to opt for a new party.

I, too, rejected Romney and voted third party, and am prepared to do so again in 2016.

It all hinges on who the GOP nominates for the 2016 presidential candidate. Even if we vote in the primary, I and millions of American conservatives will have zero voice in that decision. A huge percentage of conservative voices will be silenced because the field will have been narrowed down to perhaps two options by the time it gets to our states, and if it's like last time -- Romney or Ron Paul were my only two "choices" in the GOP presidential primary -- the "choice" will so futile as to be a bad joke.

Sure it's far-fetched to think a new party can win, that conservatives and Americans sick of tyrannical government will overcome liberalism via a new third party. But it is even MORE far-fetched to think the leftist-saturated and controlled GOP will come around in two short years.

I don't like it -- I'd rather vote Republican -- but "it" doesn't care what I like.

27 posted on 06/27/2014 2:30:51 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: BlackElk
If we are serious, we must either drive the money obsessive elitists and their unprincipled minions from the GOP OR leave the GOP and form a new party. I find the latter a more attractive alternative...

More attractive because it admits a fresh start. I agree, and I'm starting to think that the smart thing is to face the fact that so many Republicans in office have betrayed our trust that it would be lunacy to trust the party any more. It is Lucy, Charlie Brown, and the football, but it isn't funny. It's sick and dangerous.

Dreamers think the party will turn around fast enough that regular-Joe Americans will all the sudden, by 2016, believe the Republican party is "trustworthy." Anybody paying even the slightest attention knows that the Republican party stands for "screw you." Democrats and Republicans and Independents and Conservatives ALL know this.

That is going to be the same attitude they will have in two years -- unless there's a miracle, they will be so skeptical of any Republican that the party identity alone will be a huge liability. The party stands for nothing, it ignores its platform, and that's the image Americans have of it.

Limited government Americans need to unite under a new party. A SECOND party, the opposition to the pro-government party that goes by the names "Republican" and "Democrat."

We might as well face it now, instead of waiting another 18 months.

Do you think I'm crazy, BlackElk? Is it going to come down to waiting until AFTER the primaries, then standing there with our pants down, again?

29 posted on 06/27/2014 6:00:57 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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