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1 posted on 06/25/2014 10:08:35 AM PDT by Alter Kaker
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To: Alter Kaker

This was a decision by a three judge panel of the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals. Two of the three judges are Republican appointees. One by George H. W. Bush and the other by George W. Bush.


2 posted on 06/25/2014 10:12:55 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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The states should just exert their 10th amendment rights ant tell FedGov to pound sand... /s


4 posted on 06/25/2014 10:25:04 AM PDT by bfh333 ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: Alter Kaker

Upheld a lower court ruling. This is all going to Supreme Court. That means it is going to Kennedy, the guy who gave us Romer v. Evans (1996), Lawrence v. Texas (2003), US vs Windsor (2013). The decision has been made 20 years ago. Thanks alot Ronald Reagan.


5 posted on 06/25/2014 10:25:44 AM PDT by BurningOak (Live Free or Die)
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To: Alter Kaker

Garbage thinking. Complete garbage.


10 posted on 06/25/2014 10:44:21 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Beware of PC, pro-gay interpretations of the 14th Amendment's (14A) Equal Protections Clause. The Supreme Court has historically clarified 14A on issues like this.

For example, regardless that Virginia Minor argued to the Supreme Court that her citizenship in conjunction with 14A gave her the right to vote regardless that she was a woman, the Court clarified the following about that amendment. 14A introduced no new rights. It only strengthened constitutionally enumerated rights.

“3. The right of suffrage was not necessarily one of the privileges or immunities of citizenship before the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment, and that amendment does not add to these privileges and immunities. It simply furnishes additional guaranty for the protection of such as the citizen already had [emphasis added].” —Minor v. Happersett, 1874.

So since the states had never amended the Constitution to expressly protect woman suffrage before Mrs. Minor argued her case, 14A's Equal Protections Clause did not automatically give them the right to vote after that amendment was ratified.

Likewise, since the states have never amended the Constitution to expressly protect so-called gay rights, 14A didn't automatically create such protections regardless of the misguided opinions of institutionally indoctrinated judges.

Note that Virginia Minor's efforts to argue womens' right to vote were not wasted. This is because the states subsequently ratified the 19th Amendment to the Constitution which effectively gave women the right to vote.

But it remains that the states have never amended the Constitution to expressly protect so-called gay rights, the right to marriage in this example.

11 posted on 06/25/2014 10:45:04 AM PDT by Amendment10
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I pray and fast every Wednesday morning for the upcoming July 2 marriage trial in Florida.

I hope you all join me in some way this week praying for that case. The attorney general of Florida, Pam Bondi is DEFENDING MARRIAGE.


12 posted on 06/25/2014 10:51:56 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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So what! Ignore it. Go about the business of banning the marriages and recognition of such.


18 posted on 06/25/2014 12:27:28 PM PDT by SgtHooper (This is not my tag!)
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Nick posts an article on Indiana and federal judicial oppression, and the mod closes it and shuttles us to this article on Utah, same subject. What’s up with that?


19 posted on 06/25/2014 12:44:05 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Alter Kaker

One federal judge rules a whole state - from the governor on down.


20 posted on 06/25/2014 12:44:18 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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Indiana and Utah are NOT the same state. You pulled my thread on Indiana, because of an existing article about Utah? Judge Strikes Down Indiana Ban on Gay Marriage
21 posted on 06/25/2014 12:45:18 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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The BS of this is that despite the gays best efforts the people in that state and others voted to ban it. It was not a close enough margin for the libs to steal the election. These judges need to go!


28 posted on 06/25/2014 1:33:47 PM PDT by defconw (LUTFA!)
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The courts are the only lawmaking branch left in America. Until they are knocked down then Nothing moral will stand.


33 posted on 06/25/2014 3:06:09 PM PDT by Revel
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