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IRS Wanted Lois Lerner Emails To Disappear
Investor's Business Daily ^ | June 24, 2014 | IBD EDITORIALS

Posted on 06/24/2014 9:52:31 AM PDT by raptor22

Scandal: The IRS canceled a contract with an email storage contractor weeks after Lois Lerner reported lost personal files and before other IRS officials had their hard drives crash as Tea Party-targeting investigations began.

Timing is everything, the saying goes, and sometimes the timing of events is also very curious, as in the case of the lost emails of Lerner and at least six other officials at the very same time the IRS canceled its contract to back up and preserve those emails as required by federal law.

Lerner's computer supposedly crashed in June 2011, an alleged event the IRS concealed from the American public and congressional investigators for two years.

This event, which cannot be verified because her hard drive has since been destroyed and recycled, occurred just 10 days after House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Rep. Dave Camp first wrote a letter asking if the IRS was engaging in targeting of nonprofit groups.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bhoirs; cultureofcorruption; emails; govtabuse; harddrive; ibd; irs; irsemails; irsscandal; irsteapartyscandal; koskinen; lerner; lerneremails; loislerner; nicoleflax; smidgen; sonasoft; taxes; teaparty
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To: Ann Archy

Valerie Jarrett or David Axelrod.


41 posted on 06/24/2014 10:37:25 AM PDT by ncfool (Hilary 2016 Procol Harum or Boko Haram. What difference does it make?)
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To: Will88

There definitely should be a written contract specifying in detail what service Sonasoft was to provide

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Absolutely correct. And yes, it would be detailed. If IRS “cannot locate” a copy of the contract, the company probably will have one in their own files. There are also other resources on the web that should have it as well. It shouldn’t be that hard to find.


42 posted on 06/24/2014 10:38:22 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: boycott

Or both...


43 posted on 06/24/2014 10:40:17 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: kevkrom
Oh, I know the hard drive is irrelevant.

The hard drive is relevant. The mail server had limited storage quotas set for each user. When their quota maxed out, they either had to delete files or archive them to the local machine to make more room.

44 posted on 06/24/2014 10:44:40 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: nikos1121

That idiot Carl Berstein said Watergate was a bigger scandal.

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He’s a tool. If he was really concerned about scandals in the government, there’s more than enough from Obama alone to occupy him for the rest of his life.

But Berstein is only interested in investigative reporting when the scandal involves a Republican. He has no journalistic credibility whatsoever.


45 posted on 06/24/2014 10:45:06 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: EVO X

If there server is being backed up, you can still recover from backups. The storage quota only affects there server’s current storage, not its archived history.


46 posted on 06/24/2014 10:47:44 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: raptor22
Other documents on hard drive: Did Lerner and the other 6 workers also lose their other documents on the hard drive, or were they miraculously somehow backed-up while the emails were not?
47 posted on 06/24/2014 10:49:49 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: raptor22

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.....


48 posted on 06/24/2014 10:50:35 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: kevkrom

They were only recycling backups every 6 months, so by the time the scandal hit backups were long gone.


49 posted on 06/24/2014 10:52:27 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: EVO X

The mail server had limited storage quotas set for each user. When their quota maxed out, they either had to delete files or archive them to the local machine to make more room.

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That may be true for the worker bees but this is generally not the case for higher ups. They are usually allowed expanded storage that greately exceeds the standard limits imposed on everyone else. Managers are simply not going to spend time during their day to maintain their inboxes. They consider their time and their communications too important to be constrained.

There are also auto-archiving add-ons that off-load old emails automatically. You can easily retrieve old emails by using the enterprise vault app. Not sure if IRS was using that type of archiving or not but its worth investigating.


50 posted on 06/24/2014 10:53:36 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: raptor22

The IRS Commissioner testified that the contract was only for the Legal Counsel at the IRS not the entire IRS. Assuming that’s true then it wouldn’t cover the emails in question.

He did say if you filled up you agency email box it was your choice to either delete the emails or archives them on your own computers hard drive. That’s beyond stupid. He also testified that the tape back up was only incase of a major system wide crash not to restore individual or a small number of individuals whose systems crashed. It sounds like something from the 50’s. He said it would be very expensive and difficult to restore a specific email account, but he didn’t know if they tried.

I found it telling that he didn’t know which of his 5 or so so senior people working on this told him about the problem of her emails or even when. Then when asked who they were he told them that he had lots of people reporting to him. They had to reask t g e question to specify those 5 people. Tells you a lot about this guy. You have to ask the question precisely in the exact right way or you won’t get anything. I think he also used a qualifier before his answer it was probably one of them.

Until Congress can put the fear of God in this administration’s people you’ll never get anywhere. They know Holder and the administration lackeys in the MSM will only go after them if they cooperate with congress. Holder’s never going to appoint an Independent Counsel and the FUN investigation is deliberately going no where. Does the FBI have an IG who isn’t an administration lackey? Could they be brought in to investigate if the FBI is obstructing justice in the IRS investigation by slow walking it? It would take some one with big brass balls to do it


51 posted on 06/24/2014 10:54:04 AM PDT by airedale
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To: EVO X
1) They had already been informed they were the subject of a Congressional investigation BEFORE Lerner's hard drive allegedly crashed. Even if they didn't restore, they were required to preserve the evidence.

2) That was the full-scale disaster recovery backup. Routine backups would have been under a different system (Sonasoft, specifically).

52 posted on 06/24/2014 10:55:26 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: Starboard
That may be true for the worker bees but this is generally not the case for higher ups. It is likely IMHO that they had just the most bare bones system because they wanted to slow down FOIA requests and requests from congressional committees. If they find anything, it will be because an IT guy go sloppy and didn't recycle when they were told to.
53 posted on 06/24/2014 11:01:22 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: raptor22

She didn’t send these emails to her own computer, who else received/sent them and who is engaging in this coverup by suppressing evidence?

They still exist, somewhere...


54 posted on 06/24/2014 11:08:19 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: Will88

I believe you’re right, any contract between Sonasoft and the IRS is or should be a public document that we have a right to see.


55 posted on 06/24/2014 11:09:42 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Starboard; raptor22

>>Most government contractors have clauses that require the contractor to turn over all data like this.

There is an interesting field for some research.

How easy would it be to get the IRS - Sonasoft contract? Theoretically, it should be easy to get via FOIA, right? It would be interesting to see how the contract terms read on that issue.


56 posted on 06/24/2014 11:10:36 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Starboard

Watergate hurt no one except Nixon and republicans. IRS hurts everyone.... everyone. If we can’t trust out elections then there is chaos and anarchy.

Benghazi people died. VA people died.


57 posted on 06/24/2014 11:11:18 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: raptor22

Searching the internet and several hardcover dictionaries I am unable to find a word that adequately describes the lowness of this administration and its minions.


58 posted on 06/24/2014 11:12:19 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: raptor22

Searching the internet and several hardcover dictionaries I am unable to find a word that adequately describes the lowness of this administration and its minions.


59 posted on 06/24/2014 11:12:20 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: raptor22

They want to stonewall...DEFUND! They continue to stonewall...Abolish


60 posted on 06/24/2014 11:14:42 AM PDT by servantboy777
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