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Doomsday prepper father accused of plotting to kill federal agents and stockpiling guns and explosiv
UK Daily Mail ^ | June 20, 2014 | Joel Christie

Posted on 06/20/2014 9:34:51 PM PDT by kiryandil

Federal agents this week searched the Florida home of a 'doomsday prepper' they alleged had stockpiled over 50 high-powered assault rifles and several explosive devices buried around his property as 'booby traps'.

However the warrant showed up little more than barrels of food.

Martin Winters, a father-of-three from Valrico, surrendered to police on Wednesday following a widespread two-day hunt.

Investigators had claimed the 55-year-old was preparing for 'an end-of-times event as prophesied by the Book of Revelations', according to ABC News...

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; fbi; feos
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To: Lazamataz
Laz! Back in business, I see.

Well-rested and ready to snap off some crushing one-liners, I trust? LOL! :)

61 posted on 06/21/2014 9:45:44 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Q-ManRN

You misspelled “FBLie”...


62 posted on 06/21/2014 9:47:14 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: SgtHooper

lol yeah, that would be good. No need to prep when you own everything.


63 posted on 06/21/2014 9:47:19 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Thanks, GG2. I’m on it.


64 posted on 06/21/2014 9:47:58 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Q-ManRN

No, they won’t apologize. The FBI is mad as a wet sitting hen because they could not kill him. Of course it is not over yet, he could, and probably will if the opportunity arises, have an “accident” in jail.


65 posted on 06/21/2014 10:16:43 AM PDT by sport
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To: SpeakerToAnimals
I have bomb making materials if the feds decide I am a menace….

Heck, if you're an old guy with a couple Alka-Seltzer tablets in a plastic tube, that's all they need if they want to hassle someone. Obama-nation, abomination, they think they're hearing bombing the nation. Crazy times.

66 posted on 06/21/2014 1:37:55 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: TigersEye
barrels of food

Could be they were tipped it was doughnuts.

67 posted on 06/21/2014 1:58:21 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey

Doughnuts!?!?! What the heck do you mean by doughnuts? Is that some kind of secret code? Don’t be saying doughnuts on the weekend!!!!!!!!!


68 posted on 06/21/2014 2:03:07 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: sport

True, but there has to be some legal workup to see if the immunity can be “permitted”.

And as usual, I’m sure “local” politics will not be an issue. /s


69 posted on 06/21/2014 2:08:09 PM PDT by SgtHooper (This is not my tag!)
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To: SgtHooper; sport

The following was pulled form Wiki, so take with a grain of salt. There may be more recent precedent that updates, this, I didn’t check.

Counties and municipalities are not entitled to sovereign immunity. In Lincoln County v. Luning, 133 U.S. 529 (1890), the Court held that the Eleventh Amendment does not bar an individual’s suit in federal court against a county for nonpayment of a debt. (By contrast, a suit against a statewide agency is considered a suit against the state under the Eleventh Amendment. See, e.g., Edelman v. Jordan, 415 U.S. 651 (1974); Ford Motor Co. v. Department of Treasury, 323 U.S. 459 (1945)). In allowing suits against counties and municipalities, the Court was unanimous, relying in part on its “general acquiescence” in such suits over the prior thirty years. William Fletcher, a professor of legal studies at Yale University, explains the different treatment on the ground that in the nineteenth century, a municipal corporation was viewed as more closely analogous to a private corporation than to a state government. Fletcher, note 2.

County and municipal officials, when sued in their official capacity, can only be sued for prospective relief under Federal law.[4] Under state law, however, the Court in Pennhurst noted that even without immunity, suits against municipal officials relate to an institution run and funded by the state, and any relief against county or municipal officials that has some significant effect on the state treasury must be considered a suit against the state, and barred under the doctrine of sovereign immunity.


70 posted on 06/21/2014 2:16:33 PM PDT by SgtHooper (This is not my tag!)
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To: Mark17
I can't believe someone hasn't felt like they have been harassed enough, and nutted up on some government dip stick. I am not saying that should happen, only that it is bound to happen, sooner or later.

Look up Carl Drega. It has happened. It will eventually start happening more. I'm way past the point of feeling any pity over dead feds.

71 posted on 06/21/2014 3:20:12 PM PDT by zeugma (It is time for us to start playing cowboys and muslims for real now.)
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To: kiryandil; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...

The Feds run around feeling people’s groins (TSA), harassing conservative groups (IRS), shutting down coal energy (EPA), harassing and shutting down gun dealers (BATFE), forcing people to provide contraceptives (HHS/PPACA), and generally making random people’s lives a living hell. Then they wonder, I’m sure, why certain people want to kill them.

PING!


72 posted on 06/21/2014 3:39:42 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Border Crisis = Cloward-Piven, Chicano-style!)
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To: zeugma

Yep, look up Stuart Charles Alexander. I was not at San Quentin when he was there, but I had been there earlier. I was on death row a lot. It is a pretty depressing place, but it was also the safest place to be.


73 posted on 06/21/2014 4:11:30 PM PDT by Mark17 (Rudyard Kipling: Liberals be wary, when the SHTF, The Wrath of the Awakened Saxon will clobber you)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals

A 12 ga. shot gun shell fits perfect in 3/4” PVC.

One potato gun can get you busted.

If the Fed wants you they will get you.

The choice is how you want to go.


74 posted on 06/21/2014 4:27:13 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (Because Brawndo's got electrolytes. Because Ethanol has Big Corn Lobby)
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To: null and void

so they get an agent to lie on an affidavit plus they are afraid of someone who believes in the Bible

I guess hope and change has occurred


75 posted on 06/21/2014 6:44:40 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: TigersEye

76 posted on 06/21/2014 7:14:30 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: hadaclueonce

Are there federal statues against potato “launchers”?


77 posted on 06/22/2014 4:46:05 AM PDT by FBD
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To: null and void

null and void ‘And hoarders, don’t forget hoarders!’

I prefer to be thought of as a planner. Hoarder serves the purposes of the MSM well, especially with these semi reality shows featuring out and out nutcases to a gullible public.

I am not a hoarder but have you thought of shoelaces? Civilization would come to a screeching halt without them and they can serve multiple purposes. Think offense, medical, utility uses and best of all they are not illegal yet. I am currently trying to corner the shoelace market.


78 posted on 06/22/2014 8:50:29 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Bulwyf
Very possible.

That's exactly how corrupt the feds have become, IMNSHO.
It's not like it has not happened before....

79 posted on 06/23/2014 5:47:46 PM PDT by sarasmom (Extortion 17. A large number of Navy SEALs died on that mission. Ask why.)
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