I would subpoena the e-mails of anyone on Lerner’s distribution list.
Do they have purchase orders when a new hard drive was purchased? That would give a date when or if this happened.
Am obvious question - one I am sure has been asked (SARC)!
I keep hearing about “tapes”; and this takes more upkeep than buying new computers. Who the hell would use tapes except a department that wants to have a perfect excuse when things go sideways?
While it is normal and reasoned thought to consider all the possibilities of how something like that could have happened and ways to resurrect the information, it isn’t what is called for here.
It is patently obvious given a plethora of evidence regarding the maintenance of data in today’s age, that the IRS is lying. There is no other conclusion available.
Of course those emails are retained and stored on any number of servers. You could get the NSA to print them out if they weren’t so busy covering their own behinds about all the data they “do not access and keep.”
Respectfully, to give them one iota of credence in their ridiculous bleats about “lost, recycled or unavailable” does a serious, SERIOUS, disservice to the truth. These agencies are not American - not in any way, shape or form.
1. It is impossible, I repeat impossible that her hard drive stored her email. How would she access her mail from home or while on travel? Is she trying to say she only handled email from her desk? Impossible.
2. Since her mail had to be on a server, repeat had to be, then where are the back-ups and archives.
3. Supoena the disaster recovery plan asap and find those back-ups and archives before they have more time to cover-up. Obviously WH involved so cover-up will be swift and thorough.
It is beyond time for a state prosecuting authority to begin its own investigation. There are a significant number of crimes involved in the persecution of American citizens, and not all of them, maybe a minority of them, are the exclusive province of federal authorities. It is a state crime to conspire to violate the civil rights of the citizens of a state, and a state crime to spoil evidence involved in such a crime. It is time for the State Attorney Generals of Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Arkansas, Arizona, and Wisconsin, and any others who care about the rule of law in the United States, to begin their investigations and haul these IRS people and their IT people into grand juries.
Is there a federal law that prevents crimes committed by federal employees from being prosecuted by states? I'm not aware if there is.
I would think there’s been a bonfire by now
There you go using common sense again!!! :)
I run IT for several state agencies and the bs that “we lost the emails” is just that!
The white knight testified this AM that it was her “portable” computer that crashed. Which suggests the IRS would have had to reach out to any 3rd party server custodians and arrange for them crash simultaneously. And comply with equally implausible backup protocols.
Like she is going to say, “ thanks, I never thought of that.”
The Committee needs to find out; Was it Lois Lerner who logged into her account and deleted her stuff, or WAS IT SOMEONE ELSE IN THE IRS WHO LOGGED INTO HER ACCOUNT AND DID A MASSIVE WIPE OF ALL OF HER DATA????
What about her private, off-the-record email accounts?
Richard Windsor, aka Lisa Jackson, had to resign when she was caught doing just this
missing ping
How can an agency that keeps such close track on Americans have such funky e-mail system. Not possible.
Timing is everything. When did this “crash” occur in relation to Lois’ initial mea culpa disclosure of IRS targeting? It was at some breakfast or luncheon or something...
The Committee should also authorize a subpoena to access all the smart Copiers in the various IRS offices ... Modern devices keep records of all copies on an internal hard drive, usually for as long as there is disk space. You hear all the time when these units are “recycled” that the owners failed to purge (typically valuable) information, and I wouldn’t be surprised if this were a treasure trove for the investigation.
Of course she did.She also had an Andoid,an iPhone and an iPad.But,as luck would have it they've all "crashed" and they've all been "recycled".