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To: Gen.Blather
It was fought in a US court because the people who bought Argentina's debt at basically 10 cents on the dollar required the trades to be executed in the US; they did not trust the Argentinians to repay even at those rates; and as the article makes clear, were certainly right in their mistrust.

Their willingness to fund an insolvent county's sovereign debt allowed at least some of the assets to be saved. Now the Argentinians are calling the people who salvaged their miserable country "vultures."

The Argentinians never learn. Several years ago, they decided to nationalize their country's oil reserves, in effect stealing tens of billions of dollars from petrochemical companies that had invested in Argentina. Now they wonder why foreign investment is so difficult to attract.

Actions have consequences, and markets remember.

13 posted on 06/18/2014 1:11:19 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: FredZarguna; Gen.Blather

Small correction: the trades are executed under the laws of the State of New York. My opening statement makes it sound like the bond contracts were written under USC.


15 posted on 06/18/2014 1:18:27 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: FredZarguna
The general national attitude of Argentines as demonstrated in the Falklands, the nationalizations, and even in soccer, make them look absolutely horrible.

And people call America arrogant.

16 posted on 06/18/2014 1:20:10 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: FredZarguna
Now the Argentinians are calling the people who salvaged their miserable country "vultures."

Unless I'm confused, the present owners of these bonds never gave a nickel to Argentina, much less "saved" them.

Back in say, 1990, Argentina sold bonds to (foolish) investors. 10 years later, as it became obvious they were going to default, the original investors, or those they had transferred the bonds to, sold the bonds for pennies on the dollar to the "vulture investors," who gambled the low cost of the bonds vs. their face value against the low change of ever collecting.

The vultures never gave any money at all to the Argentines. That is unless I'm confused about how this works. It wasn't like Bush and Obama bailing out the banks. It's actually a lot more like our first major political controversy, where Hamilton insisted we pay our debts at face value even to speculators.

24 posted on 06/18/2014 1:40:08 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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