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Russian Troops 'Returning To Ukraine Border Areas' (...)
Daily Mail ^ | June 17, 2014 | Will Stewart

Posted on 06/17/2014 7:47:26 AM PDT by Fennie

The move - certain to worry the West - comes amid fresh tension on the frontier with both sides accusing the other of tank incursions between the two ex-Soviet states, and NATO alleging Moscow has provided military equipment to separatists.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: military; obama; russia; ukraine
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To: lodi90

Ukraine fights back and they whine about civilian casualties.


21 posted on 06/17/2014 8:57:21 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

lol...
Still with the “Russian” crap, eh?
If that helps you sleep at night....

As I have often noted, Ukraine was unstable WAY before coup. The declarations immediately after the coup about wiping out Russian Culture in Ukraine were the trigger for the Southeast, and you know it.


22 posted on 06/17/2014 8:58:44 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: lodi90

“Putin commits mass murder”

So, it’s PUTIN going town to town killing ethnic Russian civilians, while bombing and shelling other Ukrainian Civilians??

And I REALLY do love how the Maidan Trolls still deny the existence of the Nazi’s/Banderists in Ukraine.


23 posted on 06/17/2014 9:00:54 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
If it smells like vodka, and is face down in the gutter, it's Russian.

Don't object so much. You are one of the most consistently pro-Russian posters here. It should be a compliment to you.

24 posted on 06/17/2014 9:01:10 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: tcrlaf; billakay
And I REALLY do love how the Maidan Trolls still deny the existence of the Nazi’s/Banderists in Ukraine.

Point it out to me the next time you see it. You are confusing (typically) the admission that Nazis exist but in much smaller numbers than Putin and Russia Today claim with "denial."

On the other hand, take the other comment for example:

One thing that Russia is NOT at any level is Communist.

Why the double standard?
25 posted on 06/17/2014 9:05:16 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

I analyze what I see.

What I see is a coup government that can’t get out of it’s own way, killing its own citizens, promising to wipe out their culture after they took power.

There has been NO attempt on the part of Kiev to implement any of the Geneva Accords, and they have only made the situation worse at every turn. It’s almost as if the Obama Administration is running the country.

OH.....
Wait....
WHAT???


26 posted on 06/17/2014 9:05:26 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: 1rudeboy

Ukraine fights back and they whine about civilian casualties.


To a Putinista there is no such thing as “Ukraine”. Putin is free to kill Russian citizens in Dagestan & Chechnya. So why not Ukraine?

Did you notice the Pro Putins take issue with an embassy protest but ignore mass murder with MANPADS missiles? They live in an alternate reality that is now bizarrely fetishistic.


27 posted on 06/17/2014 9:05:43 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: tcrlaf

So now, Obama is a mastermind? A foreign affairs expert?


28 posted on 06/17/2014 9:08:53 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: lodi90

“but ignore mass murder with MANPADS missiles”

But mass murder with Artillery, airstrikes, and Grads is OK, right? Your hypocrisy fails miserably.

It’s a CIVIL WAR. What did you think was going to happen when the elected government fell in a coup??


29 posted on 06/17/2014 9:09:27 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Russian citizen MVD & GRU troops are killing people in Ukraine. They have been KIA by the dozens and indentified. There no way to spin out of that fact.

This is transnational unlawful warfare by Russia on Ukraine. Continuing to spout the Kremlin line can only be construed as an attempt by you to willfully deceive your fellow Freepers.


30 posted on 06/17/2014 9:10:11 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90

Pro-Russian separatists shoot down a Ukrainian transport. Ukrainian protestors turn over a few cars at the Russian embassy in response. The latter is an outrage.


31 posted on 06/17/2014 9:11:04 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: lodi90
Continuing to spout the Kremlin line can only be construed as an attempt by you to willfully deceive your fellow Freepers.

Just don't call it the "Russian" line. LOL

32 posted on 06/17/2014 9:11:53 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
"Point it out to me the next time you see it" WHY?? It's been pointed out to you hundreds of times already, and you still try to outright deny it, or minimize it.
33 posted on 06/17/2014 9:18:26 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: 1rudeboy

It’s circular nonsense from Putinistas. Ok for Putin to mass murder Ukrainian and Russian citizens (Dagestan, Chechnya, etc.) Not ok for Ukrainians to defend themselves against transnational warfare.

Bottom line is nobody died in E. Ukraine until Putin sent RF MVD & GRU in to start killing. Russia and it’s daydreaming supporters have blood on their hands for every single death in Ukraine now. Putin is killing to advance his political agenda and they support his methods.


34 posted on 06/17/2014 9:20:04 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Sam Gamgee
As opposed to the commie loving EU defenders?

There are no good guys in this fight.
35 posted on 06/17/2014 9:20:21 AM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: tcrlaf
Now we are getting somewhere. Although you are welcome to link me to a comment where I "outright deny it" (ha!), I'll admit to minimizing what Putin and Russia Today claim.

Your problem is that, if RT tweets that there is a Nazi under your bed, you'd check.

36 posted on 06/17/2014 9:22:05 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

One is a military act against opposing armed forces in a Civil War.

The other is a Diplomatic Incident. The government is responsible for the safety of diplomats within its country. To not do so has been a cause for war for CENTURIES...

That you don’t, or refuse to see the difference reveals much.


37 posted on 06/17/2014 9:23:02 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: lodi90
Speaking of circular, one of our resident Bolsheviks was claiming that everyone "knew" that the Russian troops Putin sent into Ukraine were Russian.

So we have come full circle: from denying that they were Russian, to Putin admitting they were Russian, to claiming that everyone knew it anyway.

38 posted on 06/17/2014 9:26:22 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: tcrlaf

Diplomatic “incidents” during a civil war. I’m outraged.


39 posted on 06/17/2014 9:27:09 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: tcrlaf
What I see is a coup government that can’t get out of it’s own way, killing its own citizens, promising to wipe out their culture after they took power.

Coup government? Ukraine just had an election. Poroshenko was elected. The pro Russian Dobkin got about 2 percent of the vote.

This isn't a coup government and you should know that. But you call it a "coup" government anyway.

40 posted on 06/17/2014 9:39:28 AM PDT by FreeReign
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