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I.R.S. Commissioner to Testify on Ex-Official’s Lost Emails
New York Times ^ | June 16, 2014 | DAVID S. JOACHIM

Posted on 06/17/2014 5:46:01 AM PDT by don-o

WASHINGTON — The Internal Revenue Service commissioner will testify before two House committees next week about the agency’s disclosure that it lost thousands of emails sought by investigators looking into accusations of politically motivated misconduct by the agency, the committees said Monday.

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Mr. Koskinen is scheduled to appear before Mr. Issa’s committee on Monday night and, voluntarily, before the Ways and Means Committee on Tuesday. The Ways and Means chairman, Representative Dave Camp, Republican of Michigan, wrote a letter to President Obama on Monday asking for “all communications between Lois Lerner and any persons with the executive office of the president” for the period between

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gettherope; impeachnow; irs; lerner; loislerner
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To: don-o

It is expanding:

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41 posted on 06/17/2014 8:00:44 AM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: Ray76

my isp


42 posted on 06/17/2014 8:01:50 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Cap Huff

metastasizing

“There is a cancer growing on the Presidency.”


43 posted on 06/17/2014 8:03:14 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

“metastasizing”

Yes, that’s a better way of putting it.


44 posted on 06/17/2014 8:04:26 AM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: don-o

And, if she was sending email on her personal computer from home (or a phone) with or without an alias, they should be backed up on her service provider’s (Hot Mail, gmail, etc.)servers - no?

Tinfoil hat or Clancy time- - maybe she was using an Internet Café and their computer and servers crashed ;-)


45 posted on 06/17/2014 8:05:25 AM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: Ray76

I believe that client side limits were set by corporate policy. I do not know their reason for that.


46 posted on 06/17/2014 8:06:47 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

This is harassment. Leave the President alone!


47 posted on 06/17/2014 8:08:39 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: don-o

And your ISP knows how much email you have on your disk?


48 posted on 06/17/2014 8:10:04 AM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: Ray76

They do because I use a webmail app. Do not have my own email client on my PC.

Sorry I even brought that in - it’s irrelevant to the discussion.


49 posted on 06/17/2014 8:13:08 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

Well in any event, it’s not for us to figure out, it is for them to explain.

This is not Bob’s Pressure Washing and Gutter Cleaning, this is a Federal agency whose core business is legal and financial matters. They have an IT department and/or contractors. Haul them in and grill them.

Their excuses hold no water.


50 posted on 06/17/2014 8:13:59 AM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: don-o

Actually that is highly relevant! You’re email is on their server. You view your mail via a webpage. A email client application would not rely on a webpage, but would retrieve email from their server and store it on your computer, optionally leaving it on their server as well.


51 posted on 06/17/2014 8:16:42 AM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: Ray76
John Hayward ‏@Doc_0 9m

BOLO alert: large dog eating homework from numerous IRS employees, emits an EMP field that wipes out hard drives and backups, use caution

52 posted on 06/17/2014 8:22:21 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

Empy has been a bad dog!


53 posted on 06/17/2014 8:29:08 AM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: don-o

“...Because there IS a limit to how much can be stored on the client side PC. Last place I worked, we would get notices from corporate when we were nearing our limit.”
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You do realize that “the limit” you were notified about was the maximum ALLOCATED space that was made available (for “ACTIVE” emails) for each employees. Typically, more space is ALLOCATED for high level employees than for lower level employees.

And, by the way, when employees “delete” email items to stay below the limit, they are just deleted/removed from that “active” allocated space. They are still retrievable should management (or the employee) need them for any justified reason.

Don’t buy the Obama regime’s BS.


54 posted on 06/17/2014 11:30:55 AM PDT by House Atreides (ELL)
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To: House Atreides

Have no illusion that I am buying any brown matter from any animal including criminal politicians.

I brought up the client side storage (allocation) issue because that is included in the IRS bleating about how those emails got gone. You do not contest the fact that, from time to time, users will be prompted to delete emails? Do you?


55 posted on 06/17/2014 11:37:45 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

“...You do not contest the fact that, from time to time, users will be prompted to delete emails? Do you?”
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No I do not. But folks need to understand that said deletion will simply result in a copy of the “deleted” being in a particular allocated portion of the server’s database. So it will appear to the client who “deleted” the email item that it is gone. Should the person have incorrectly “deleted” an important email (from his/her allocated storage space), his/her IT support can “RESTORE” it to that allocated space. So the person did in fact delete the message from his allocated space but he/she did not delete it from the organization’s or Agency’s records.

There are thousands of folks in prison as a result of evidence that the convicts thought they had disappeared. The ONLY email that you can be sure is not a part of any backup or archived record is the email message that you never create in the first place.


56 posted on 06/17/2014 11:54:45 AM PDT by House Atreides (ELL)
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To: don-o
Congress should have the IT director of any large firm cross examine this guy. Get detailed facts on the record about how they could possibly have managed to "accidently" lose all copies of these emails.

It can't be done accidently and it can't be done on purpose. Those copies are out there.

57 posted on 06/17/2014 11:58:34 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead

Issa should have called the head of IT from IRS to sit next to the Commissioner who is supposed to testify, I think tomorrow.


58 posted on 06/17/2014 12:04:42 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: dead

-— It can’t be done accidently and it can’t be done on purpose -—

What I find to be the most astonishing is the fact that they have managed to silence everyone involved in their archiving system.

Our side needs to offer a large reward for a whistleblower.


59 posted on 06/17/2014 12:06:26 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: don-o

Correction: Testimony is next week.


60 posted on 06/17/2014 12:06:26 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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