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To: SeekAndFind
Can you say independent Kurdish State?

And how does ISIS have enough people to hold these towns? Was there no sign of possible Iraqi Army collapse before this? Were they Sunnis or Shiites? Are the Shiites just incapable of performing as an Army?

4 posted on 06/12/2014 7:31:37 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: Jabba the Nutt
Are the Shiites just incapable of performing as an Army?

If being in the army means nothing more than a good paycheck then you will not stand and fight.

11 posted on 06/12/2014 7:33:40 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Jabba the Nutt
And how does ISIS have enough people to hold these towns? Was there no sign of possible Iraqi Army collapse before this? Were they Sunnis or Shiites? Are the Shiites just incapable of performing as an Army?

Just because you've paid people to put on a uniform, doesn't make them an army.

If they aren't willing to fight, they are not an army. The ISIS men are willing to fight, the Iraqi army is not. We will see if the Iraqi Shiites and Kurds can put together a real army before being overrun.

35 posted on 06/12/2014 8:22:18 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

“Are the Shiites just incapable of performing as an Army?”

I think they’re mostly just unwilling to die defending Sunnis from other Sunnis. War will start in earnest when they reach Shia territory.


39 posted on 06/12/2014 8:24:47 AM PDT by Blackyce (French President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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To: Jabba the Nutt
And how does ISIS have enough people to hold these towns?

I don't believe that it does. It certainly does have enough people to destabilize the sitting government, though, putting Iraq up for grabs at the hands of a number of parties who have been just waiting for the opportunity. If Iran isn't already actively involved it soon will be.

54 posted on 06/12/2014 8:57:39 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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