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To: ifinnegan

No I’m not “satans little helper” and I can’t help that you are completely ignorant. I am a Christian and a hospice nurse of many years.
How would you like to be held under water because you’re thirsty. How would you like for someone to force food down your throat if you can’t swallow or if its going to just sit in your stomach? Imagine someone forcing so much food into you that it backs up your esophagus and goes into your lungs?
When a persons body is shutting down naturally, you can pump feedings into their g tube and its going to sit in their stomach until it is full, then its going to back up into their lungs because their body will not digest it!

I will be happy to private message you my phone number so we can have a rational discussion about the natural dying process, unless of course you’d rather call me names and accuse me of being an evil murder.


31 posted on 06/10/2014 10:19:09 AM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God! ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: Lil Flower

Sorry for the rhetoric. It was obviously not meant literally.

I am not sure you can have a rational discussion. You are quite emotional in this and present pseudo-medical misinformation.

You are conflating things.

And your rhetoric meant to evoke visceral reaction does not help.

People with age related dementia can be kept alive many years with feeding tubes in the side. This is after medical advice is to let them die, a euphemism for starvation induced euthanasia.


33 posted on 06/10/2014 10:29:02 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Lil Flower

My grandfather had a condition where the valve that separated his esophagus from his trachea was “mistiming” due to neurological problems. He also had “silent aspiration” which complicated things.

http://www.home-speech-home.com/dysphagia.html

In addition, he had a malfunctioning LES valve in the esophagus. What would happen is that food/water would back up and into his bronchial passage then into his lungs.

He essentially starved/dehydrated to death because the caregivers couldn’t feed him for fear that the food/water would go into his lungs. There was little the caregivers could do except make him comfortable.

A staunch Christian, he understood that his time was up and chose to go meet his Maker the best way he knew how. The caregivers did their level best to help him. That doesn’t make them minions of the devil...


40 posted on 06/10/2014 11:02:54 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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