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To: Lil Flower

Sorry for the rhetoric. It was obviously not meant literally.

I am not sure you can have a rational discussion. You are quite emotional in this and present pseudo-medical misinformation.

You are conflating things.

And your rhetoric meant to evoke visceral reaction does not help.

People with age related dementia can be kept alive many years with feeding tubes in the side. This is after medical advice is to let them die, a euphemism for starvation induced euthanasia.


33 posted on 06/10/2014 10:29:02 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

Its not pseudo-medical. I’m a trained professional.

You are absolutely correct. You can keep a personal alive with a feeding tube. I had a patient a few years ago who lived with a feeding tube for five years. Her daughter lived 2 miles away and for a year and a half, she never came to visit her once. But that’s another story.

I got a phone call one morning that the patient want responding. When I got there, she was mottling, had a high temp, and was gurgling. I took a syringe and withdrew the contents of her stomach, a procedure that you do before each tube feeding. You would not believe the copious amount of tube feeding in her stomach.

She was dying even with regular tube feedings. Because her body was shutting down, her body could no longer digest the feedings. The tube feedings were stopped becauseat the point that she was dying they were no longer a benefit to her.
I don’t know what more I can say to make you understand this.
You are the one who is being emotional and it is causing you to be irrational. I have been on both sides of this; as a health care professional and as a cargiver to several family members. It its clear you have no idea what you are talking about and are not interested in being educated.
My offer still stands to send you my phone number and we can talk. Otherwise, good day.


38 posted on 06/10/2014 10:56:48 AM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God! ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: ifinnegan; Lil Flower

ifinnegan, if you were one of my children, I would be running to my lawyer as fast as my old legs could take me, in fear that you would try to keep me alive for many years, with an advanced case of dementia.

and, Lil Flower, please know how much I respect and appreciate hospice care, and how much it meant to me and my beloved.

Our care here was from St. Croix, a wonderful Roman Catholic hospice, and you are right, ifinnegan is completely wrong in all he believes.

I can only guess that many who have such uninformed beliefs about end-of-life care have little or no experience or understanding of how complicated these matters can be, and also do not know that Hospice, in many cases, actually prolongs life, compared to current hospital care.


47 posted on 06/10/2014 11:20:47 AM PDT by jacquej ("It is the peculiar quality of a fool to perceive the faults of others and to forget his own.")
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