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To: servo1969

I don’t have any problem with family members having more influence in having a family member involuntarily hospitalized but the idea that a restraining order will stop someone from getting a gun is pure stupidity.


10 posted on 06/07/2014 3:10:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: cripplecreek

So you don’t have a single liberal crazy in your family - cousin, aunt, uncle....


16 posted on 06/07/2014 3:14:47 PM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothings)
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To: cripplecreek

Notice how often she uses the word “ensure.” As though these gun-grabbing laws are going to ensure anyone’s safety. Isn’t ensure a drink?


78 posted on 06/07/2014 7:24:07 PM PDT by Catsrus (A)
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To: cripplecreek
I don’t have any problem with family members having more influence in having a family member involuntarily hospitalized but the idea that a restraining order will stop someone from getting a gun is pure stupidity.

If the areas a woman goes don't overlap the places an estranged man would have a particular right to go, a judge could issue a restraining order which didn't trample the man's rights but protected the woman quite well, if it simply said: "You are hereby informed that you are to refrain from visiting the following places at the times indicated, unless you seek and receive from this court or certain specified officials specific authorization to the contrary. In the event that you are in such a place and XXX kills you there, the killing will be presumed to have been in self-defense. Even if you are invited to one of the indicated places by XXX, you should refuse to go unless you have followed procedures described below to authorize such visit."

Such an order would restrict the estranged man's rights much less than, protect the woman much better than, an order which would seek to disarm the man in question.

93 posted on 06/08/2014 12:37:04 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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